foreign [Music] history today we will be talking about fothergil’s architecture Nottingham is a city rich in history and culture it is also home to some of the most beautiful architecture in the country one man who left a lasting mark on the city skyline was Watson fothergil a prolific architect who worked here in the late 19th century and early 20th century [Music] Watson fothergil was born in 1841 in the small village of Burton near worksop he began his career as an apprentice to a local Builder and quickly developed a love for architecture by the time he moved to Nottingham in 1870 he had already established himself as a talented architect with a keen eye for detail and a passion for creating beautiful buildings like the one you see behind us behind me is one of Fothergil’s oldest buildings which was knocked down in the 1960s to make way for the little woods department store it used to be called the black boy Hotel the Nottingham bank is one of Watson forever girl’s most iconic buildings with its towering Spire intricate carvings and beautiful stained glass windows it’s a true Masterpiece of Victorian Gothic architecture it’s also a testament to the man’s business Acumen as it was one of the first buildings in the city to be fitted with elevators and electric lighting making it one of the most modern and technologically advanced buildings of its time behind me is one of all the girls most well-known buildings because it’s in Old Market design and its that,that set fothergil apart from other architects at the time was his unique combination of architecture including Victorian Gothic Queen Anne and arts and crafts architecture he was known for his intricate carvings elaborate Stone and brickwork and he Incorporated stained glass into his buildings [Music] Watson for the girls buildings can be found all over Nottingham from the grand Banks and Office Buildings in the city center to the more modern Terrace houses in the suburbs some of his most noble Works include the former Nottingham Bank the Royal Insurance building and the home insurance building all of which still stand today and are a testament to his skill and creativity
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Nottingham History the Castle Caves
hello and welcome back to go visit castles today we’re in our local city of Nottingham to visit what is possibly the most famous and well-known castle in the world and who knows we might even catch a glimpse of Robin Hood himself welcome to Nottingham Castle [Music] two years after the Battle of Hastings a modern Bailey Castle was constructed at Nottingham on the orders of William the Conqueror who entrusted the castle to William peverell during the reign of Henry II this was replaced with a stone keep and for centuries the castle was one of the most important in England thanks to its strategic position and proximity to Royal hunting grounds and forests the most famous of which is Sherwood Forest Home of the legendary Outlaw Robin Hood one of Nottingham Castle’s most unusual and interesting features the networks of caves and tunnels that run not just beneath the castle but the whole city itself and it was through this tunnel the Edward III stormed the castle and captured Roger Mortimer so this is the entrance to the tunnel known as mortimer’s Hall and this goes all the way from the top of the rock all the way down to the bottom to the trip to Jerusalem Pub now this tunnel has been off limits of the public for quite some time but in true go visit Castle fashion we are going in foreign history and explore in the tunnels beneath not in Castle it does not get any better than this does it no it doesn’t we’re actually walking the footsteps then with the thirds man when they came to capture Roger mortar aren’t we this is pretty special isn’t it when Edward III was crowned King he was only 14 years of age both Edward and his realm were governed by Queen Isabella and Roger Mortimer who were acting as Regents but by 1330 Edward had tired of mortimer’s behavior and whilst Mortimer and Isabella were meeting with their remaining allies here at Nottingham Castle Edward LED his supporters up through these tunnels in to the castle grounds and he overpowered Mortimer Mortimer was bound and gagged he was led down the tunnels where he was taken to the Tower of London he was condemned without a trial and he was executed [Music] the tunnel that I’m currently in is known as King David’s dungeon and as you can probably tell it doesn’t contain many dungeon-like features at all and that’s because it’s actually a passage from the old medieval kitchens but Legend has it that King David was held here for 11 years as a prisoner and that he scratched the story of Christ into the walls with his fingernails which isn’t true at all but David was held here temporarily after his defeat at the Battle of Neville’s cross in 1346 but it was only a temporary thing and after a few days he was moved to the Tower of London foreign [Music] [Music] the year is 11.94 the king of England reaches the lionheart has been away for many years on Crusade [Music] meanwhile back in England Prince John the Future King John has been behaving very badly foreign wants to take control of England and the frame for himself and with the help of some loyal supporters has taken control of the number of royal castles Nottingham is one of them [Music] unbeknown to the whole country King Richard has arrived back in England unannounced only to be told of his little brother’s treasonous Antics King Richard is not amused he has a large army behind him and he makes a beeline straight for Nottingham Castle [Music] foreign [Music] ER arrives in Nottingham on the 25th of March and immediately lays Seas to the castle the Castle’s Garrison not actually believing makes the king outside the gate but an army said to trick them and test their loyalty to Prince John hold out thank you [Music] the King has brought with him a number of Siege engines including trebuchets and the three days he attacks and he batters Nottingham Castle into submission [Music] on the third day The Defenders finally realizing that it is the king besieging them surrender thus ending the siege of 1194. [Music] it was here at Nottingham Castle in 1461 the Edward IV declared himself king during the War of the Roses Edward recognized the Castle’s military value and he immediately set about strengthening the defenses here [Music] when Edward died Richard Duke of Gloucester lodged Edward’s sons in the Tower of London for their protection but young Edward never made it to his coronation because his father’s marriage had been declared invalid and because him and his brother had mysteriously disappeared [Music] Richard Duke of Gloucester was now crowned the king and it’s from Nottingham Castle that Richard III rode out to meet Henry Tudor’s Army at the Battle of Bosworth foreign Hood was he a real person think of Outlaws condemn men fugitives from the law Harding out and showing forest with a price on their head in truth I think there would have been quite a few people just like Robin Hood I’m just not too sure about Robin from The Ridge and giving it all back to the poor though in 1642 Charles the first raised his standard at Nottingham Castle starting the English Civil War but Charles failed to Rally any support and so parliamentarian seized the opportunity to hold the castle after the Civil War the castle was demolished to prevent it being used for military purposes ever again with you guys [Music] [Music] the history of Nottingham Castle is just so vast that it was impossible to cover all of it in the video so what we have done is popped a timeline of the events in the description below and if you have a look through that it gives you an idea of just how important aside Nottingham Castle was and no visit to Nottingham Castle would be complete without having a point in the old trip to Jerusalem Pub and it’s from this Pub that Richard the first first set out on Crusade if you’ve enjoyed this please like And subscribe and we’ll see you next time see you next time [Music]
Is Nottingham the Poorest City?
foreign [Music] poorest cities in the UK Nottingham oh my Nottingham so we wish to exclaim alas salvos being fired from both sides of the Divide hasn’t given us a cause for exaltation in Nottingham can you count the number of times Nottingham has been named the poorest city in the UK within seven years there is definitely some requiring attention in and about this city oh you who dislike Nottingham please know that you haven’t found support in this video and you enthusiastic admirers of this city we’re not out here now to increase your fan base as usual we would look at the available facts regardless of fervent rebuffs of figures by the city officials and serve you nothing but the truth figures in public domain let’s peep into what available data reveals about Nottingham’s situation we start with figures from the office for National statistics the ons Nottingham’s gross disposable household income gdhi is the lowest in the UK according to the last available figures the average yearly after tax earnings in the city is 12 445 pounds with that amount residents of Nottingham residence earnings are over seven thousand pounds less than the national average those who consider this alone will be justified in their assertion that Nottingham is one of the poorest cities the employment rate also doesn’t bode well for the city according to the last available figures only 57 percent of all Nottingham’s 16 to 64 year olds are at work this is the lowest employment rate of all major cities in the United Kingdom just one of the reasons the city is the poorest of 179 areas across the country but when you look at the overall scores Nottingham isn’t just at the bottom it’s so far behind the rest as expected this breeds crime the rate of which has increased across the region we all know that there’s a close link between deprivation and poverty and crime while explaining his decision to establish the Nottingham School of boxing in the city Marcellus baz of sneinton a repentant gang member said that he saw that there were many areas of deprivation in the city and he wanted to get the youth there to work council’s rejection this is to be a kind of indictment of the city council we therefore understand it keeps rejecting the ranking giving a lot of reasons well this is not an isolated response this has always been the position of Nottingham’s Council one of the reasons given by the council is that it has many affluent suburbs that aren’t captured in the figures as part of the city’s official boundaries for that reason the results they said have been skewed by geography the council further states that based on its own calculation the figure that would truly represent the city’s situation is sixteen thousand pounds per person once affluent suburbs like West bridgford and Beeston have been included the council believes that Nottingham would move up to the 56th position of the UK districts if the places where people have more disposable income are included in the city figures it claims that more than half of the people employed in Nottingham City live in surrounding districts also the city council always blamed the unusually high student in the city for the low ranking as usual the council says the city’s apparent poor economic performance is a result of 46 000 students who are less likely to be in full-time or well-paid forms of employment according to the council the figures of these people have diluted those of the individuals in well-paid and highly skilled jobs who live in more prosperous adjoining boroughs commenting on what statistics say about Nottingham City Council leader councilor David Mellon objected we know that our City’s tied boundaries and High student population make statistics like this present Nottingham in a much worse life than is actually the case he however unwittingly conceded what the council was contesting by adding but we also know that people are facing very real challenges in their everyday lives he declined the decade of government austerity and Welfare reforms and a lack of action to rebalance the national economy such that attention will be given to other cities Beyond London residents real life experiences the council appears to be alone in their denial of what is obvious as many people in this city are still struggling with poverty residences have bitter experiences to relate regarding living standards in their City one of them is David Adkins a 58 year old man who has been unemployed for 19 years due to health reasons he is now living on employment and support allowance Esa he feels terribly isolated because he has no money within one year he accumulates debt of up to two thousand pounds now he has to cut back seriously to pay it off we don’t know whether this isn’t a bit exaggerated he said he sometimes goes a day or two without eating and he may have to rely on his friends for weeks because he has absolutely nothing consider also the case of 53 year old Maria Fern a regular visitor to the food bank she confessed to having rifled through Supermarket bins so that she could feed herself and her son to make the matter worse for her her disability living allowance and benefits she depends on to care for her son were cut both of them now had to live on about 145 pounds a week she lamented I feel embarrassed I can’t provide for my son or by his shoes or uniform it’s bad yet another Paul retiree is Michael McHale a 65 year old walking past the food bank having lived in Nottingham all his life he said he felt sorry for the generation of younger people now looking for jobs in this city he lamented how much industry the city has lost such as the lace Market where they used to make famous lace which has now turned into just bars and Residences now firms like Raleigh bikes manufacturer and a cigarette factory who were paying good wages back in those days have left Nottingham he concluded by asking what are the young people going to do there’s no work for them and finally on this consider the case of a younger Melissa levers the 29 year old mother of one from The Meadows said she wasn’t so surprised by the figures she complained about how Bloody hard it is to find a well-paying job in the city adding that those without a degree and those looking for a part-time job have very limited chances in Nottingham she also said the wage we earn for what we do is ridiculous I’ve stopped going out and buying makeup I had to borrow money from my friend’s Granddad the other day with food bills and rent the pay is just not enough these are just a few examples of numerous residents of the city who are not happy about their City these have aired their opinion in the media some of them even used awful expressions what the council is doing even if the authorities in Nottingham challenge the findings they admit that all is not well with their City economically and they are working out many things they believe that one of the solutions is good support in the early years they cite the example of the excellent work of small steps big changes a lottery funded program to improve the outcomes for zero to three-year-olds they also believe that good education will allow children to be creative and productive in the future in fact they already have many Local Schools rated good and outstanding by ofsted more than the national average and this is a good sign of great progress the council boss said they are focused on ensuring that Nottingham residents benefit from the opportunities presented newly by investment and development that they have just attracted to the city he reiterated their comment to creating 15 000 new jobs for local people within the next four years according to him the council has continued funding welfare support and its debt advice Services he said further that the council has carried out extensive and pervasive improvements to homes while setting up Robin Hood energy with the view to reducing bills on energy the council has also supported employment and is embarking on Training Services and job fairs while appreciating the longtime and unwavering support and dedication of the city’s Partners in progress the council boss said they are working with them to provide the necessary safety net for anyone facing homelessness in the council’s usual fashion he considered the presence of food banks in the city a terrible indictment of modern British Society instead seeing it as evidence of poverty in the city at this point no sincere person would doubt that Nottingham is a city in the tight grip of poverty however is it among the poorest cities in the United Kingdom please tell us in the comment section what would be your position thank you for watching this video please don’t forget to subscribe and turn on the notification Bell this is learning canteen
Nottingham Crime History Shooting
foreign [Music] [Applause] foreign Staples had much in common though not friends they crossed paths amicably in their home City Beau shared a passion for football both were fathers of two young children and according to those close to them both were rarely without a smile on the 25th of May 2009 these two young men from Nottingham were 5 300 miles apart but both were about to make fatal decisions that would lead to the same tragic destination 27 year old Mr Langton known as nard was cheeky an outgoing young man who made his money as a medium-level drug dealer mainly running a string of houses producing hydroponically grown cannabis originally from the city of Liverpool he made his way to Nottingham living in Lenton and the borewell areas of the city he had a partner and a dean and two young children he had been in trouble with the law in July 2004 serving four months in prison after running down and killing 59 year old pedestrian Kevin Kent Omni Yamaha motorbike and fleeing the scene he eventually handed himself in when his conscience got the bearer of him Mr Langton enjoyed clubland to the full and it was no surprise for any early hours of the hot bank holiday weekend he decided to visit a newly opened venue in the city’s lace Market called Paris formerly known as Geisha to finish off what had been a banging night out it was about 1 45 am in Nottingham and the neon lit Street still held an abundance of promise for young Club lovers who knew there was no work to get up for on Monday morning some of Mr langton’s companions mentioned that Paris might be full of people but they had an ongoing beef with nard Shrugged he was up for a good night out not trouble he had his knife on him just in case he walked in nodding to the doorman they didn’t dare search him on the other side of the world in the quiet Costa Rican coastal town of talamanca it was 6 45 PM 19 year old Reece Staples nicknamed doubler had ditched a promising football career in Nottingham now he was thousands of moles from home and planning to make a purchase of high-grade crack cocaine he had told friends he was taking his girlfriend Kylie on a Caribbean holiday where he was here to make a deal he would buy enough crack that once it was cut for sale would bring in around 27 000 pounds it still had to be transported back to the UK but Rhys knew what had to be done it had all been planned before he had set foot in Costa Rica although he would not be the primary recipient of any profits others who had brought the plane tickets for him we’ll see to that and keep the walls from the door sure the pressure pulsated through his body and his heart beat faster when he thought about what he was doing but that was all part of the game besides he trickled to himself when he was done he could dine out for weeks telling his friends about the smuggling vacation Adventures back at the Paris nightclub nard was clocked by a number of people as he walked in many hollered to him but there were others lurking who had a history of Mr Langton and his friends it went back to an incident several years earlier when a friend of Mr langtons had been shot in the back near the city’s Showcase Cinema one of those who had a beef with him Alex James now pushed his way through the teaming club without warning Mr James struck Mr Langton over the head with a champagne bottle Mr Langton reacted instinctively pulling out his knife and stabbing Mr James in the leg someone close by then whipped out a handgun and fired off two shots people screamed get down somebody’s got a gun friends of Mr James seeing the blood running from his leg wound and hearing the gun discharge before he had been shot even as the people began running from the upstairs bar downstairs onto the street and I’m police Response Unit was being sent to the scene among the crowd was 34 year old Dion Griffin a bragger who was saturated himself in the gangster life for two decades Mr Griffin was a mid-level drug dealer always looking to step up and leave his Mark he had been convicted previously in operation opal which focused on dealers being used by The Vessel cartel and had also been suspected of ordering a number of shootings in the past in one case a 27 year old man from The Apple Tree area a displeased Mr Griffin and was kidnapped outside the Lord Nelson Pub the victim was beaten and tortured for three hours and then whilst pleading for his life was shot several times and left for dead on Moore Road The Man Who police say was very very looking to be alive managed to crawl to a telephone box and dial 999 when Medics arrived they were kept back for several minutes whilst arm officers quizzed the victim about who carried out the shooting such was their belief that he would not survive whilst there was little doubt that Mr Griffin had ordered to kidnap and the shooting he had distanced himself enough to avoid being charged now in the early hours of May the 25th Mr Griffin cemented his notoriety he summoned Anthony Tony tirado his personal enforcer Mr terado was armed of a hang and pulled out a pair of black gloves together they went searching for burning Langton working their way through the Paris Club as people Spilled Out onto the street Mr Griffin Mr terado an associate from Birmingham went outside and spotted Mr Langton with blood streaming from his head wound walking then trotting down the street still thinking Mr Langton might be armed Mr terado hid behind the pillar then walked out onto the street again as Mr Griffin ordered him to take him down from 20 meters the sound of four gun shops erupted and Mr Langton was hit twice in the bat as he fled down Pilcher gate he staggered before tumbling down a state of stairs near the picture and piano Pub and the Living Room restaurant Mr Griffin and his cohorts fled armed police and ambulances already summoned to Paris arrived to find that stabbing victim Alex James had been put in the car by his friends arriving at the Queen’s Medical Center at 2 18 am Mr Griffin Mr terado and others in another car made their way to the hospital to check on the condition of Mr James arriving at 2 22 am but in the city center paramedics arriving at the lace Market were not given immediate access to Mr lamington because the incident was still considered live and no one knew if the gunman was still around by 2 35 am Mr Langton was finally on his way to the qmc already unconscious its ambulance drove to the accident and emergency Bay of the hospital at 2 45 AM followed by a police van only to be met by a distinctly unwelcoming crew led by Mr Griffin they were intent on preventing the young man getting into the hospital for treatment even as Mr Langton was taking his last breaths Mr Griffin stood at the center of the group screaming at the paramedic and the security staff at the hospital I hope you’re dead if he comes out we’ll finish him off he’s gonna die he’s not coming in here eight minutes elapsed before staff could get Mr Langton into the hospital but by then it was too late he was officially declared dead just before 3am in Costa Rica three staples was having problems confirming his flight to the UK he was also trying to judge the right time to swallow the crack cocaine he and Kylie had brought when the couple eventually arrived back at Luton Airport on June 5th they were greeted at the airport by a man who had sent them on their mission Stanley Leach a Jamaican national living on the broxto estate Mr leech was married but was having an affair with Kylie and clearly had some kind of hold over her to demand that the pair become drug mules for him Rhys insisted that he take the risks and swallow all the drugs himself the 22 pellets of crack had been secured and cut off fingers of latex gloves which were then sealed with white and wrapped in cling film The disruptive stages of the flight back to the UK meant that Rhys had to re-swallow some of the packages he had swallowed 25 hours earlier but nevertheless he and Kylie walked unhindered through the Customs at Luton Airport Reese was able to give Mr leech three of the cocaine packets he had excreted but constipating agents he had taken to make sure that drugs did not pass through his body too quickly meant that a further 19 packets remained inside him the day after arriving back Reese was on the streets around Radford and basford on his own turf he didn’t feel very well he told Kylie he suspected some of the drugs were now leaking into his body and said that he thought he might be dying desperation began to boil over him and in the early hours of June the 7th he was picked up by a routine police patrol in the basford area of Suspicion of causing criminal damage to a car at 1 15 am he was arrested and taken to Ox close lane police station where he was placed in a Cell what took place during the next three hours is still not clear but at 5am officers in the custody Suite area were alerted that their prisoner was suffering some sort of seizure in his cell like Bernard Langdon Reef Staples died in the ambulance on the way to the hospital Nottinghamshire police in line with policy of deaths in custody immediately called the independent police complaints commission to investigate whether any of their officers had failed in their duties the outpouring of grief among those who had known Rhys was overwhelming more than 4 000 people signed up to a Facebook page in tribute to him and hundreds attended his funeral many wearing t-shirts in blaze of his smiling face few could understand what had led a 19 year old away from his path as a promising young footballer to become a drug mule unfortunately part of the answer was there in the double lives being led by many young people in a deprived inner cities the aspiration these youngsters had set themselves were often so unrealistically high a lucrative career in football music and modeling that when these dreams were dashed away they saw few options other than becoming a drug dealer or living a gang life three Staples at first come to prominence in 2004 when as a 15 year old from the city’s Trinity School he played for Nottingham Forest under 16s and then signed for their Rivals not County it wasn’t long before Premiership clubs lined up at the Meadow Lane to secure the signature of the surging goal scoring midfielder he was potentially the best thing to come out of the club since Jermaine pennant who went on to play for Arsenal Leeds United and Liverpool Manchester United who had been on the receiving end of Reese’s talents when he was with Nottingham Forest won the race to sign him ahead of Aston Villa and Blackburn Rovers after he was impressed on a trial but things did not work out at Old Trafford and less than a year later Reese was on his way back to Nottingham he returned to the forest Youth Academy and was given the number 34 shirt of the full Squad by 2006 he seen back on track with the forest youth team regularly turning up for key performances which helped taking through to the fifth round of the FAA young cook and during the 2007 and 2008 season to a 15 match unbeaten run but it appeared he had two personalities there was Rhys the promising young footballer and then the Radford gang member wearing his black bandana and drinking brandy in the early hours of New Year’s Day 2007 at doubler he was involved in a mass Foy at a private party at the Variety Club in Radford three people including Rhys suffered serious stab wounds he was rushed to the qmc by friends who acted quickly enough to save his life the violence he suffered that night seemed to sap his self-confidence he continued with Nottingham Forest throughout 2007 and 2008 but his head was somewhere else in October 2008 he was released by them and snapped up by a town league team Carlton FC away from the pressure of professional football Reese’s confidence and passion for the game returned but he could not stop doubler dragging him back into the Gully life that cracked in the streets around him it was no different for Bernard Langton both were victims of a lifestyle which if they had the strength of mine they would surely have wished to escape instead they were alert to their end body intoxicating draw of another life gambling on the promise of street credibility and Financial Security both men would be remembered by those closest but as smiles and the brightness they beamed into others in their short lives but there was also the terrible Legacy of sadness they left that of unfulfilled hopes and not least the unfortunate situation that two sets of children would now have to grow up not knowing their dads in May 2010 the individuals identified by the police as playing part in pulling re-staples back into the ghetto were jailed at Nottingham Crown Court Stanley Leach 38 was sentenced to five years of free month for conspiring to import and Supply crack cocaine Kylie Hodgson 24 who had a child boy Reese was sentenced to three years after admitting to importing the drug which police estimated would have been worth up to 27 000 pounds the 134 grams of high grade Coke that made up the shipment was not a large amount a mayor just been in a test room in preparation for regular excursions the authorities seem to be perplexed as anyone about why Mr Staples chose drugs over football judge milman QC said it’s impossible to work out why a lad of 19 who spent time with Nottingham Forest Academy got involved to put it bluntly in drug smuggling Bernard langdon’s death was the first gun fatality in shottingham in three years since the killing of 17 year old Nathan Williams in September 2006. drug dealer Courtney hunt h21 was later jailed for life for shooting Mr Williams through the heart in the Meadows Bridgeway shopping Precinct after a teenager had taunted him for being fat the introduction of airport-stalled scanners at the entrant to some of the city’s clubs offered reassurance to some but there were criticism from the owners that it had been put there to put people coming off coming to their Club the fact was that gang members were increasingly treating clubs as their own officers and extended cribs Quest questions were rightly being asked about how two people have managed to enter the clubs that night carrying firearms one clubs played by gun problems on the outskirt of the city had its license revoked after testimony from the police that the licensee had been cleaning up evidence after one particular clash in which a car was shot up it did not take police long to arrest those responsible for Bernard langdon’s death thanks largely to the CCTV footage from the outside of Queen’s Medical Center and around the lace Market which had caught the flashes of the gun being fired eight people including Dion Griffin and Anthony tradado were arrested their trial got underway at Birmingham Crown Court on May 2010 with experienced QC Peter Joyce leading the prosecution the full scale of the terror visited upon Nottingham that evening emerged in what was described by the judge as something akin to the wild west one of the four shots fired by Mr tradado had gone through the window of a book hitting the Optics behind the bar it was only by look that no passing revelers were gunned down that night the court heard how Mr Griffin had a hold over Mr tradado appealing to the younger man’s perverse Ambitions to become a fully fledged gangster Mr Griffin’s word was Lord to Mr tridado who was more than happy to carry out the demands of his ego-fueled boss the evening after the shooting the two of them had fled to skegness where Mr Griffin like Colin Gunn kept the Caravan for holding up after a couple of days Mr terado was feeling the heat not least because skagness was full of people from Nottingham he sent Mr Griffin a text saying ask what time I’m getting off it’s flaming here Mr Griffin replied with a calculated coldness of a man who had been there before no drama he texted Mr terrado just chill no more text shortly after a third man Andrew pleasance age 39 organized a hundred pounds for a taxi for Mr terado to disappear down to Gloucester where he intended to hide out despite jumping more than 10 mobile phones they had used before and after the murder the three were convicted on the basis of CCTV footage and the ability of the police to forensically back the signal movements through mobile phone mass and calls made between the missing phones after a trial lasting more than six weeks the jewelry found Mr Griffin and Mr tirado who both lived in the top Valley area guilty of murder Mr Pleasants was found guilty of assisting an offender and was sentenced to four years the jury failed to reach a verdict on the third man from Birmingham who was accused of murder sentencing Mr Griffin and Mr tirado to life with a minimum of 28 years each Mrs Justice sharp set the scenes at the hospital were utterly disgraceful she added this was nothing less than a cold-blooded execution motivated by Revenge innocent passer boys could easily have been struck by a stray bullet and the public could have been caught up by something that resembled something from the wild west after the case Mr Landon’s mother could Dina record upon her son’s good nature I really miss his cheeky smile she said he was always laughing and had a very bubbly character he liked to make all of us laugh and was a brilliant dad his daughter was only one when he died he would always be spending time with his son going to the park and taking him to the cinema it’s hard to believe he’s gone and they will have to grow up without him people who did this have taken away my son from me and ruined my life everyone needs to wake up and know what’s going on around him and to understand gun crime devastates families
Nottingham Joker documentary
i do it for the people that like a rogue or like a villain because at the end of the day that’s what i am i am a villain so i might as well be what i am and then you know what in this country the letter of the law says as long as you’re not being dishonest you’re not committing a crime and i figure if i’m dressing like the joke and i’m dressing as a villain i should be allowed to be a villain and get away with it this is damien hammond or what is more commonly known as the joker of nottingham a man who slipped through the cracks of society struggling with severe mental health conditions and was left on the streets to spiral into an incredibly sad and shocking situation from age 12 damien was known to the law for minor offences and by the time of his latest imprisonment 19 years later had been convicted of over 110 offenses the timeline of when damien decided to become the joker is unknown but according to court documents his crime spree started escalating around 2016. by 2018 you’d really struggle to find somebody who lived around nottingham city center that didn’t know of the joker that wondered the streets seeing him around nottingham dressed like the joker all the time seen this guy around knotts for years the guy’s a literal nutcase i’ve seen that joker guy so many times i’ve grown to accept him as part of the bus stops and not a person since he was always there even when the police searched for him which was almost a daily activity they simply asked locals have you seen the joker which of course they had just perhaps not recent enough to point them in his direction now let’s take a bit of a step back before we get more into his story since the joker was actually much closer to his fictional home than reality would indicate but first a word from today’s sponsor ease online the ark of napistim is out now and available to download using the link in the video description have you ever felt a strong sense of urgency to rush to the aid of fictional characters me 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today’s video click the link in the video description to get started and on with the content nottingham is a city in england’s midland region known for its role in the robin hood legend surrounded by historically interesting locations like sherwood forest where the merry men allegedly made their home one place in the nottinghamshire region that people may not know about is funnily enough for a small village called gotham the name gotham comes from old english goat home and the correct pronunciation is actually goatum the village became famous for stories depicting the inhabitants of being stupid or taken with madness though it’s believed that the reason for this was more of a ruse to prevent a royal highway being built through the village saving themselves the work of creating and maintaining it you see back in the rule of king john madness was thought to be contagious so when king john sent his knights to scout the village to see if it was good for the road they saw the villagers acting as if they were insane and left as quickly as they came this meant that the road was never built in gotham so this was the known inspiration for the nickname given to new york city by american writer washington irvine all the way back in 1807. over a hundred years later the batman comics were created and they were originally set in new york city that is of course until writer bill finger saw the name gotum jewelers in a phone book and changed the name of batman’s home to gotham city which of course is a vastly different pronunciation but how you would read it not in the old english so that’s where the joker comes from which is a really perfect villain to live in a village known for its madness when you know the backstory of how it came to be now if that’s not strange enough for you for this whole story wayne manor the home of batman was literally shot in the movies a real estate known as wallington hall which is of course also in nottingham so there we have it we have wayne manor we have goatum or gotham and the joker but unfortunately no batman at least as of yet now it’s very unlikely that damien hammond knew all of this but he was a self-proclaimed obsessive about the comic book villain the joker and he definitely knew about gotham the village as he was seen there dressed in the permanent attire of the villain he saw himself to be now it’s very hard to find footage of the nottingham joker it’s very few and far between but social media comments regarding his arrests or brief cop show fame illustrate that he truly played the par he’s a madman was driving my car through the town center coming home from work he walked out into the middle of the road in a 30 zone and pointed his cane at cars ordering them to stop laughed and then continued to walk off i’ve seen this guy in a night out ran out from the dark wanting to do card tricks scared the out of me and me mate he cursed me out for not wanting to see his magic trick for money obviously though of course given the fact he was supposed to be an insane villain and not just making jokes people’s interactions were not always funny often involving violence or theft he threatened to stab me with a flu i once stopped in on tesco on the way home and this guy just walks in grabs two boxes of celebrations and leaves he’s a freaking fruit loop he was begging outside poundland on parliament street nottingham standing in front of the door stopping people on their way into the store asking for money then chase someone in the store throwing abuse at them because they told him to shift out the way he was screaming like a madman i helped the security guy remove him from the store he then gave me abuse so i just got my phone out and said i’m calling the police and he ran off i didn’t even have any charge on my phone who’s the joker now so it’s pretty clear that damian had picked a perfect role for someone with a very obvious untreated mental illness he was living at an unknown address which usually indicates homelessness he was seen on the streets begging across the city frequently stealing whatever he could and ended up in court dozens of times in 2016 he was given a 12-month prison sentence for wounding which involves doing grievous bodily harm to another individual in 2018 he was handed a suspended sentence for theft possession of an offensive weapon and indecent exposure a suspended sentence of course meaning if he committed no further offences he would not have to serve that time unfortunately it didn’t take very long for him to go on a three-month crime spree for which he was picked up multiple times by the police and later that same year ended up in front of a judge again this time for obstructing police in unlawful possession of cannabis which triggered the previous conviction and earned him 22 weeks in jail with a three-year ban from nottingham city center which of course for most people would be quite hard to enforce i mean how are you going to recognize most people on the street but obviously you’re going to notice the joker walking around as everyone frequently did so what exactly did he do on his crime spree well some of them include hitting an officer in the head while he was being searched for drugs intimidating employees in stores criminal damage involving spray painting the floors in bathrooms and my personal favorite which you might have actually seen the real joker do standing in traffic waving around a gun-shaped lighter unfortunately it’s not all fun since upon hearing his sentence he did scream send me to prison i don’t care see what you have done i will kill today it’s very clear from how exactly he did things damien was obsessed with the comic book villain he was mimicking the things the real joker would do and from people’s experiences interacting with him it’s clear he was becoming increasingly paranoid and this was before going to prison met this lad down at waterfront showed me a card trick he’s obviously not all there but seemed in all right lot said the police are constantly harassing him even showed me a card trick and said police are trying to kill him i was like what after being released from his 22-week sentence the joker continued his antics which involved not taking his prescribed antipsychotics and getting hooked on a drug known as mamba this is what is commonly referred to as a synthetic cannabis product but has no similarities in use or effects and is more in line with something much more sinister it’s common in england to hear people talk about spice which is all over the place at the moment and really harming society it’s a very similar product to mamba and the people using this are often incredibly dangerous to be around as they’re prone to temper lack of judgment and will also do almost anything to get their next fix obviously not a great combination of things for someone with a proven history of untreated mental health issues multiple stints in prison for violent crimes a propensity for paranoia and a fixation with a make-believe villain so this is where the story takes a turn and comes to an end on december 30th 2019 a pair of local city workers were driving their van down strelli road nottingham when they spotted a broken television outside a building this is not an uncommon occurrence as people will often leave unwanted possessions outside their residence which are collected by local scrap dealers or city workers unfortunately this television was the property of nottingham’s comic book villain he spotted them from his window 14 feet up and began shouting aggressively that it was his property to leave it alone and how he was going to come down they explained to him that it was their job to clean up the streets so they should take it off the pavement that’s when the joker picked up a bowling ball wrapped it in a pair of jeans held it outside his window and let go the bowling ball traveled from 14 feet in the air directly onto the head of one of the workers instantly sending him to the ground and changing his life forever the victim says his injuries affect him and his family daily his personality has changed and he must wear a card to explain why his behavior in public might be considered odd this will likely be the case for the rest of his life in terms of what happened to the joker he then had a two-hour standoff with police in which he threatened to kill anyone who approached him and then he set himself on fire and jumped out of the window damien hammond was later sentenced to 12 years in prison with an additional four years extended sentence period which is handed to individuals who a judge considers to be of great danger to the public the judge told hammond during sentencing you are a volatile individual who will almost certainly offend again and it would be short-sighted on me if i were to not protect the public you are dangerous and you need to be released only when the danger has subsided now one comment on social media i want to draw your attention to is the following came across him a good few times the tram stop giving him a good stare back to show him he wasn’t freaking me out seemed to do the trick now this comment obviously comes before the joker was put in prison for 12 years for dropping a bowling ball on somebody’s head i think it serves a good lesson that you should probably avoid trying to assert dominance with people who are clearly struggling with reality in their place within it as you never really know what minor incident could cause a life-changing one to end this there is also a change.org petition which nine people have signed which reads drop all charges against damien hammond aka the nottingham joker in which the body reads free damien hammond from his 16-year prison sentence for attacking a council worker who was taking his property society made him like this and his mental health issues were ignored so that is the story of nottingham joker a man who on the surface is a funny story walking around dressed as a comic book villain doing the things the villain would do in the popular movies and comics underneath is a severely unwell individual whom society failed to help for the decade they knew of his issues as a result he’s spent years in prison and will spend many more meanwhile his latest victim will spend the rest of his life in the prison of a broken mind
UK Gangster Podcast Cartel Boss David Gunn
[Music] i think for three years kate for four years so i’ve done every top security every special unit everyone in the country i’ve done absolutely every every one of them and you know violence on all of them robert moore’s laid down by kenny noye catwalk kev kevlame curtis warren all of them killed someone with a single punch at outside boots in nottingham city centre what three and a half years for that for a manslaughter [Music] it’s not a murder mate let me beat him so i bit his eyelids off and his lips off and swallowed him but that that’s what i had to do because he’s caught my daughter’s eyes i thought i’m going to score you for life me [Music] i used to have one of those koshers up my sleeve with gassing who said hell this who are you gassing i’m putting back on the sleeve [Music] i’ll have to find out who’s done it tech them round weigh them in get the people to tread on the reds and all that or smash their hands in with hammers and that’s the sort of thing that went off [Music] because was all iris catesy so you’re strapped up in pursuits and with prisoner on the back and there’s helicopters cars guns all around the courts guns are drawn if they’d have found you guilty how much time would you got i died in prison i did my brother got a 35 out of got the same today we have got a massive story loads of viewers have requested this one over the years and if you have seen any of the news stories about the best wood cartel and the gun brothers then this is the one you’ve been waiting for but the thing is a lot of journalists authors click baiters have run with this and there’s all kinds of myths exaggerated stories and dave gunn is going to put those to rest today when he tells his story and his brother is serving 36 35 35 35 rape life yeah and and and dave himself has done over 20 years i’ve done about 23 yeah i’ve done i’ve done 11 out of the last 15 it’s just for nonsense mate but johnny good of you is just the idea of the prisons you’ve been for um on the last sentence i did i was iris kate for three years cutting for four years so i’ve done every top security every special unit everyone in the country i’ve done absolutely every every one of them and you know violence on all of them with staff and you know but it make up for the man that’s why i say he’s and you just have to roll with it but some bad times some good times some good people in there but i’ve actually done lots and lots of different jails and 16 on remand which has caused so they can upset you your routine and then it takes three months for your paperwork to follow you so you can’t study your murder cases because they’ve got it for three months then it follows you it lands on you they move you again and again and again and it’s just non-stop and who are some of the more well-known characters you’ve served time with i’ve done it i’ve been on the special unit with charlie robert mosley done by mckennie noye catwalk kev kevlain curtis warren all of them everybody all the top security leads and your brother then um colin he’s been cat aid for how many years collins now is still high-risk catty but he’s been is the longest one in british history he’s been doing it for 17 years now and he’s been exceptional three times as well uh where you get removed to the unit on ten-man unlock at belmarsh and um it’s just you’re out on your own there was just even bieber and curtis there at one stage but yeah he’s been high risk cutting for 17 years he’s trying to come off it but not much hope of it with the way the police are going on and everything and the silliness they say all right before we get to all that then let’s just go back to you guys growing up what was that like yeah we had rough times you know with single parents and never really had much very clean but my mom had to work every hour god sent just to feeders and everything so you start to thieving and and trying to earn money for the family and you know you’re doing all that to look after the family but growing up it was a it was a good time brilliant but got very handy with the fists and you know just throw your weight about and as children but as you grow up and get older you want bigger and better things don’t you so you just progress into you go from from burglaries robbing robbing garages and things like that and then finally you’re into drugs and that’s where that’s where the money was at the time what about the rave scene did that chill you’re right the 18 were brilliant yeah it was brilliant what was your first race because we came down to we didn’t get down to nottingham we went to birmingham rag market we went to coventry the eclipse yeah stoke and sheffield they had them all up there and they had the first massive one was that 25 000 people won at fantasia at castle i was a brilliant rape when spoonie and top buzz and all that was on yeah brilliant rave absolutely the flyers for all they’re from 89 90 and then the cops seized them and used them as evidence again did they yeah bastards yeah so what was it like taking ecstasy for you and i’ve never really bothered with drugs you know in in them days i mean before obviously it was called ease then it was then white and white was called yeah and and there was all selling there’s one for 25 quid a pill and i said to our kid let’s get into this mate what’s going on how come these wankers are getting all the dope yeah but so obviously you try and you try your own you’re only young 19 and 20 but you get knocked back and that you get a bit angry and but it was great there was good buzz though it was a good buzz he had a good time on him because a lot of like the violence like reduced because liverpool versus manchester they were scared for each other’s cities so animate them both but then they get under ease and they’re all hugging and kissing you you can eat you can eat them one minute and half hour later you’ll be sticking lips on them mental so school then for you what was that like school was good school was great you know no exams are nothing i just dropped out of everything just just just doing my own thing and i was working in old people zones and all that as a child but after school that’s when it all started you’re fighting and meet fighting other gangs and you know you know as children that’s what you did but school was good we had a good a proper good upbringing and my man my mom was busy crackers when the copper’s ready for us she’d be eating them with shoes and also [Laughter] 98 00:06:37,918 –> 00:06:41,279 [Laughter] yeah you said it was gangs what were the games back then well there was there was a best woodlot you know it was known as the best for us there’s only 15 and 16 it’s you know tosses really but you you think the big men don’t get that then he was fighting edwards lane arnold you’re just going around all different schools fighting them just to sit just to show you’re the cop of the schools in that you know that’s how it was and what were you on a path for you were never going to have a straight career well i did i worked i worked for the council as a gardener then i set my own car business up but you you’re constantly trying to do better and earn more and and you know you stop you just start dipping into things and that’s better than this and that gets put on the lead by and you move ahead with this one and you know it’s been a it’s been horrific but it’s been brilliant it’s been a good ride yeah but would i do it again i don’t think i would know you all right to just elaborate on the ride because going from like being in your late teens the news reports were saying this cartel had like hundreds of people work from all this stuff yeah how does it go from that teenager well from from say i was married at 19 me and my wife have been together since was nine years old so we’re married at 19 and then obviously i did in the 80s i was forever doing boast all sentences yp sentences for doing what i do in town fighting and that then you know i killed someone with a single punch at outside boots in nottingham city centre about three and a half years for that for a manslaughter started on you yes my wife just got married and someone’s tried to grope her and and he just went outside i smacked her meetings out on the curb and i got nick for that remanded for that that was the first one and then there’s quite a few guys in prison there’s enough of things like that someone’s got set ups and behind there behind your ear is the weakest part of your school and if you land on it you’re a gunner right because it shoots into your brain right that’s what happens bloody hell were you surprised um was it like you know going to court for all that and stuff was it upset you know well it was part part of the course for me but when you’re young it’s upsetting but as you get older you just get bitter and bitterer and you know it’s hard for your family so when you’re in the jail you get you get drugs in don’t you sell the drugs to to feed your family and everybody was doing it in the 90s that’s how it was you just got visits you shoved it all over your arse and job done no cameras are in days so you knew everybody inside yeah everybody yeah yeah because was prominent at 19 and 20 you know it was well known but so when you got out on that sentence then what was your life like it was good that’s what that that’s when i went back to work and with the council and things was nice and then you need more money than they can pay so and that you get people on your estate at the time who are selling drugs they’re absolute honors and you’re thinking what what what what these earning all this you know driving around in the day it was exile free eyes and that relates to that but if yeah i said to our kid what he’s doing these wankers that’s lovely so we just took it off and yeah and started doing it ourselves that’s how it’s been but i’ll talk about it because i’ve done the jail for it so yeah you know but you’ve got to fill the cupboards or call by crook at that age your family need feeding i have four children yeah so calling them back then was he in and out of the boston as well yeah colin did a few but colin colin used to be known as knuckles because because he’s got massive hands there he just used to snore him yeah just used to put him to sleep in one punch at that so no no one to talk to him when they had problems with colin needs to come and talk to me dave can you sort this out because it’s good to him you’ll just pull the face and bow yeah that’s how it’s always been blessing yeah but it’s good stuff colleen man but they’ve just proper gone to town this time stitched him up yeah yeah we’re gonna get to that then yeah all right so you decide to take over and does that mean like you taxed the local people that were doing it already or no no just we just told them they’re not doing it no more we’re doing it and you’re off the scene and only people sell this around here is us this is our firm’s job and anybody else does it there’s going to be serious consequences so you know and obviously serious consequences happened are you able to elaborate on that well people people got serious beatings and people was put in hospital you know but as far as i i can’t really elaborate anything did you get convicted of stuff around that time yeah i was always locked up yeah i was like not the man of thought i was so what was your next sentence after the one that one um what did i get then i’ve done 15 months three years i’ve done a four and a half eight and a half so was that all drug related no no only the last one was drug related i’ve never been nick for drugs just the last one but the major one is where my daughter was nine years old in a bar she’s having a sunday lunch with my wife and the children and a man’s failing to the table not the coca-cola or whatever she’s she jumps up screaming he’s belted her in the eye so i’ve got a phone call i’ve gone down in me my paul’s got one of them and it’s not a murder mate let me just beat him so i bit his eyelids off and his lips off and swallowed him but that that’s what i had to do because he’s caught my daughter’s eye so far i’m going to score you for life mate he’s bashed all her eyelid open yeah and then as we’ve gone in the boys like that at the bar to my family so i thought you’re going to sleep here mate and then i’m going to go talk to i’m going to go to town on you and that’s what i did i just i just ended him mate with some some fists and feet and then bit him just let him know what what time it is drunk drunk drunk drop a drunk one of them bashing nine-year-olds nine-year-old daughters yeah me nine-year-old child holy like it can’t happen can it it can’t happen don’t happen i got four year nine month for it yeah you should have got a medal yeah and you come and give evidence as well i can’t believe it he was locked up at the time always the way is in these cowards but he’s dead now i seen his wife the other day i said what’s happened to that wanker where is he now i said he’s dead david said for that piece of absolutely yeah but he were locked up during the two years because he battered the bird he was wifey amadeus he obviously stuck him in and then he’s come from shrewsbury because he couldn’t be placed in the midlands because of our connections so he was in jail and shrewsbury come and give evidence he got me four year nine months but you know so does a woman be a kid beat on a snitch and a snake yeah no good cunning i’m glad he’s dead what was the next sentence after that one after that i think i got a three for a violent disorder what led to that it was a new year’s eve party and one of the lads have been through out by the by the host so they’ve come and woke me up i said dave this bloke threw his eyes punched on the nose so we all went around with baseball bats and stoved him in but you know that was the days in them days yeah that’s what happened humiliating people you went to sleep so all these prison sentences so far in the story that you’ve described was it just plain sailing for you because you knew everybody yeah plain sailing you know it just took you on the chin you dealt at the end you play the undone you and you do your best while you’re in jail treat people with respect if they want it they can have it and it’s like that but no one wants it you don’t really want it because you want to get out but you’ve just got to show yourself as somebody who’s not bothered and let’s have it then what about run-ins with the guards yeah i’ve always got on with them to be fair there’s a there’s a i’ve had a few runnings i’ve had a few runnings with them but especially on the special units but in them sea cats and that as a young kid you get on with them all because they all want to smoke me off so the run-ins were later on later on yeah yeah what was the next sentence then after the three would have been what did i get about 27 one for someone for another daft abh punching someone in the eye socket in a club i was always pissed off hitting people not bullying but in my head there’s a reason no no no it wasn’t yeah that’s all you know and you know because i i i’ve always had medication for schizophrenia and all that sort of stuff so in my head i think i’m right and and it’s these come first and i’ll unload a few of them and then after when you realize you know to say i’ll come at me and before you know you’re getting led away in cuffs oh what’s that my big wild woman she’s got like a tumor on part of her brain and she goes from zero to psychosic without so many seconds i know yeah you can do that yeah it’s easy mate yeah so you got you got a string of these offenses then yeah and then what led up to the bigger one that what which one the eight and half one yeah um i had a massive had a massive conspiracy to supply in england the whales with amphetamine heroin and cocaine but never doubt in class as it was only an amphetamine i’m not minimizing it it’s drugs you know he’s banging out of the border but i was dealing in amphetamine earning good money i was earning about 18 grand a week off it so i was having probably out of it but then when we all got bossed could what they done that we had a special branch an mi5 on us right because we was getting that that big all over the country but with all the other lads doing what they’re doing and everything so the beoguard my workers they both with their asses and stole all the jewelry in that but why they was in there they put cameras in the televisions so these there’s videos of them with the misses on the seti and you know the private private videos and there’s like there’s loads of them and they’re they’re talking saying oh yeah dave said to this and dave said to this and it but it brings down the conspiracy didn’t it and then they bugged me car at the ed response the stereo but uh bugged it that was all did you notice the stereo was bugged well i was on my way to york one day and um the person with me i’ll say i said look that’s a different stereo dave that that’s got a big scratching yours had a big scratching this is brand new no it’s not it’s it’s my stereo it’s my cd he said no look it’s gone so i pulled over on the label on the a1 ripped out and launched it and i thought i’m going to sell this car when i go back when i had shush but but by that time the damage had already been done because my powers have been sat there mate doggy saying 22 years i’ve been dealing drugs mate and he got a five year for that just for the car being bugged it falls just admission yeah one admission yeah i got in five years and it it locked me up had the kids working for me they was all bugged and when they got raided i got raided i got arrested in a bistro in in bull in a place called bulwar by on police i sat there with my friend who’s passed away now and they’re coming guns drawn you’re under arrest david i thought it was for them m chargers but it won’t and they come in and nick me for drugs i said what are you all about me anyway that they did have a lot mate so i was i was cathayed for nine kilogram amphetamine went to wakefield prison had two nights there then five in the morning west off to manchester to strange ways on e-wing near the cate unit so i was there for about two and a half months then i got neat for the murders they took me to lao police station um in armed escort helicopter and all that all on please then they brought me back and i realized that was iris cathy and then obviously i’m there that i’m iris kate so let’s crack on with it but it’s a big fight on and so you’ve got to roll your sleeves on and get ready for it so you’ve covered a lot of ground now let’s go back a bit um so you had two days in monster mansion yeah yeah on b wing what was that like great no nonsense on b wings there is on b wing but wakefield roman units just specifically for cate prisoners and obviously there’s a lot of lads who will watch this who know about it who’s been there you know so it’s the last 18 cells on the land and there’s a there was bars there at the time but they had all these nonces there in wheelchairs and that and used to go in the shower i was in with with uh jammer shaw you know the bradford cop killers for the travel agent ones i was locked up with them so because we’re in the showers one day i’ve seen this little nonce in his wheelchair with his leg going knee going up and down scratching his balls out watching us in the shower so it says to jammer go and boil the kettle mate and put some sugar in it so he’s gone on board it brought it back in the shower says come here mate balacar once it’s coming i him straight in his face so he’s going around in his chair bent her foot i thought you dirty bastard people playing with scott watching men in the showers i scolded him but after that it all got sealed off they put thick plastic up all around the wing because they knew we weren’t having that yeah you know and there was all the all the sydney called he married a 21 year old scars fellow there and they married him in the jail just pure homosexuality in there was this before or was i was after paul sykes was this yes sightseeing died by then sexy died by then yeah yeah so good stuff i was in full sun with his son yeah yeah he’s good stuff how did he get left off yeah i think he got life off in the end yeah but he got the the the the the coloured people in there served him up in the showers cut him up yeah served him up but good kid he was wha what was um what was he like then he said he likes his son yeah you’re great he was odd could have a good mate hey he could swing his face he was a unit yeah you know but you know in them in them places everybody who’s been in them will know exactly what i’m saying the the parent paranoid breeders like in the morning you’ll see them coming out screw-faced and they’ll say morning and if you don’t say morning back at dinner it’s going to be on you because they think you’ve got a vengeance with them so they’ll come and knife you in the back of the neck that’s how there was there’s two or three a week in there yeah drive me two murders in there while i was there i was in there with a kid called damien from northampton yeah right and he said dave i’m going on the numbers i’m going to do a nonce i said leave it demo right i mean i’m not going to say his last name i can tell you his last name but anyway he’s going on the numbers he’s killed a nonce called hatch got him up choked him out stabbed him and when the screws have gone to the door he’s barricaded up and this says to him under the door hatch and he had his ambiance they’re saying can’t like talking about his mouth moving so in the end of fourth century and the fella’s dead wow yeah killed him but he said he just he just wanted the notoriety he did lovely kid he’s only doing a seven of summer right but then you’ve got i think you’ve got 25 for it 25 l plates yeah and it comes with life for some people yeah yeah yeah the other one some people like the notoriety don’t they yeah but but you know in general you get the notoriety for a week then you forgot about it somebody else has it and then the thing is if you’re the toughest someone else wants to make them someone else will make a name of you and they’re right as life goes on and carries on you’re getting older and older and older so people think i’ll have a pop at this con and yeah you know they always do that that’s life i’ve done it myself yeah i’ll snore this fella and you just knock them out and obviously it happens all the time so you’ve got to be ready for it yes on our recent tour of the north a lot of people were telling us stories about lee duffy and possibly yeah yeah don’t fake did you hear anything about it yeah i knew a lot about duffy through the newcastle list because sunderland lag weren’t he yeah but orders nails south bank yeah orders nails yeah yeah all the sunderlands loved him still talk about him to this day i think there’s gonna be a movie or something about it yeah there wants to be as well odd as nails maybe that fella was and there’s a book about him in the book about him and fifth graham because with graham yeah well i got a prison he gave me that boy gotta read it mate brilliant book yeah but you know in them days there’s no tvs in in the jail so you just sat there engulfed in books i’m reading in that and when i when i read that one viv graham rated him proper rated him but someone could shot him near his cosworth didn’t they and done it wanker and they got duffy as well yeah got duffer you got me you got end yeah yeah bless him but he could have a go in the only young kid as well we could throw his weight about maybe he didn’t have two folks did they oh the bouncers would just lock the doors yeah yeah they weren’t telling me he couldn’t commit his bolts off yeah vote them all off yeah yeah yes if you’re interested if you’re watching this um we have done the audio books the duffy audio box holder the moon there’s a whole series of them on amazon if you wanna viewers wanna listen to the ozone hopefully we’ll get your book out sometimes all right so two days in monster mansion what was the next one the next one was manchester i went on e-wing there was there about two and a half months got arrested for the murders strange ways to change what was this this was in 2005. because we’ve interviewed loads of people have been in strange ways yeah changeways went to badger you know you know but that’s the man’s home bad people are they imagine what’s that like because manchester liverpool there was a lot of yeah the lot of beef always has been because of the football and that but i’ve gone there and i’ve turned up about half seven in the morning because i’ve gone from wakefield street they’re no court case room says i’ve got all my stone island on and everything i’ve gone bowling down the stairs with my blanket and they’re all like saying who’s this 34 00:22:52,79 –> 00:22:55,119 normally so i got talking to a scarce fellow well two of them two brothers porky and willie become really good powers of mine right and that they’ve said who are you mates i’ve told him he says hang on i made a phone call and he said yeah yeah got his gold good this lad’s got his gold and i was in for drugs and all that obviously they found somebody who’s in the know from liverpool and knows us in nottingham yeah so we got i got accepted then without paperwork and that and then i just cracked on then but made it made made the right meal of it and got knuckled down there’s some good lads there that made some proper good poles did you ever sell me in when you when you just standard cat a on that unit they like to put you in in a cell with someone and i went in with another because i’m diabetic i went to a cell with a kid called stuart granger absolute brilliant kid he’s doing life and that but fantastic kid and he’s about to art now as well so proper brilliant kid love him to be so with proper good close powers and next bumped into him in full sun when i was doing the tours of the top securities and then it made a fuss of me and when you get somewhere sean they take all your stuff off you and you don’t get it for two or three weeks so you hit the wing with nothing and then obviously people know you because people have already earned then people who know you as well and they come and bring bags of theirs food you’re on a meal tonight dave because you cook all your own food in them but your steak and chips and that tonight are you okay for i said yes mate sand you know and just just live that’s what you’ve got to do went up to 21 stone come out 21 stone i did massive but no training just eating fat as they come so he said he was a diabetic was he a diabetic diabetic 34 year old so at that point in your life had you had that coma situation yeah no i had the coma 2000 yeah 2004 i’d had it yeah let’s go back to that then what what happened around there well i i i you know i was a heavy drinker in them days and i’d gone on the session i was having a hey all not food and i’ve gone to bed one night and my brother and i had to break in in the morning because i’m i’m unresponsive so they broke in they booted the door off they’ve come upstairs and um i’ve got i’ve got up swinging so he’s knocked me out just put one on my chin and knocked me clean out phoned an ambulance carried me to the in the back of the ambulance and then followed it in in his range rover got to the hospital and you know i still i was asleep for six days not because of the punch because of my blood sugars went below two millimoles and i went in a coma had you had a corner before that no that’s the first one i had the first one yes but i i didn’t know i was in it and when i woke up right um i’ve come round on that i didn’t know where i was and i didn’t know who was who all i could remember is my mom and colin didn’t know didn’t know my wife sandy didn’t know my children didn’t know nobody horrendous so how long is the rehabilitation from that getting your memory back well he’s still in fully back now and that was 2006 no no my short-term memory is crap long-term i can remember years ago but short-term like what we’ve said up there i don’t remember so we’ll have to write things down so when you got took home from the hospital are you thinking where am i going really who’s this in the car with me i didn’t know and then and then i ended up walking around dead confused i thought i’ll go for a walk because i like a walk i used to have one of those koshers up my sleeve with gas in people say hello dave will you gussom and put it back on the sleeve the lunatic didn’t know what they were doing proper added gun but slowly but surely it was coming back and i could remember things that you just click one more and you think ah this happened and then you say to him he says you know can remember this they said yeah that happened dave and all that but it’s mad because you got an interesting legal situation didn’t you work by because of your memory it was part of your defense defender did you have to talk about that one yeah yes i made what what was the crime the crime was i had uh two murders two i had a normal murder charge for the thing in scotland but totally innocent like every one of us was but the way that the way they did it and i deceitfully was and how they’ve done it you know they ended up convicting three people they got convicted ten to two i was acquitted twelve to none you know everyone believed me but i believe on murder trials and things like that if you’re not willing to take the stand and tell them what’s happened and what’s happened with you and everything who’s going to believe what your embarrassed is saying you’ve got you’ve got to talk about it you’ve got to be open and honest and talk about it that’s what you have to do me so i did all i was in the dock for four days under constant attack but i swallowed it and i answered every question because i went i weren’t lying you see i was telling the gods on his truth and out in the end i was acquitted but i was still on remand for the drugs charge i had not nine kilo of amphetamine and then they ended up getting eight and a half years for that so the media cause i’ve been reading all the media and you’re gonna set some of this straight as well yeah so the media and the videos were saying um they were linking all the murders back to like a tit for tat going back to jamie was it yeah when my jamie uh um it was in a bar where where where was half owners of the barge this is your nephew that’s my dream it was like your son wasn’t it yeah was my sister’s boy but he was always with me i proper looked after him you know and he i used to get father’s day cards off him and everything but what what what’s happened in the in the bar there are two fellas are coming i don’t name them because they’re not worthy of naming right but they’ve gone in the bar they’ve started groping a couple of the birds so the young lads here we used to call the young lads the hyenas because when one went in about 20 of them coming you know you just got smashed to fall so they didn’t realize everyone’s there and once couple have gone into them there were bars gone into them and they’ve smashed trays and bottles in their faces so fair play trend they’ve gone and got gunned up they want revenge so as they’ve gone in the card they’ve phoned marvin bless him never been in trouble in his life just as a worker but they like to plan with the lad so they phoned him up i think about 3 30 in the morning and um i was in spain at the time right so he’s going to pick him up but the man who’s done done the beating with the ash trees was a mixed race kid and i won’t name him either right but they’ve seen marvin as mixed raced pull up in the car get him in the car and drive out as he drove out they’ve shot him in the head mistaken mistaken identity totally innocent made never done anything wrong in his life totally innocent i’m right in front of jamie jamie sat next to him we were obviously blood all over him and i finished he went on a downward spiral mate and um all that all them silly offers and papers not saying he was taking cocaine he was a dorm and he went a doorman and he didn’t use cocaine just when he just went very depressed and on a downward spiral and in the end pneumonia had done him and you know i remember him it was out on the saturday so i’m going um now dave i don’t feel very well mate i’m going home i said okay i’ll come and pick you up tomorrow so i rang him the next day he never answered his phone i thought i’ll leave him lying in and then by that time you’re on a session and that’s my biggest regret in my life not going around his ass you know to fetch him and and then on the monday morning of our phone call saying he died oh horrible mate horrible but then because because jamie had died and then the fellas that shot marvin right the onus was then on us because his parents got killed so they’re saying well it must have been them they must have done it you know and so they put all the work into me and colin of course yeah but but there’s a there’s a lot of people you know i’m not going to slaughter john sterling lovely bloke he was one of my best poles the man who got killed so obviously nothing to do with me i didn’t know his wife didn’t know what she was but i knew her family you know but absolutely nothing to do with none of us it sounds like that one of the shooters was into a lot of stuff one of the shooters of jamie’s mate that killed james was into a lot of stuff because there was um a news report that said when he got found guilty yeah through water through water over the family members of his victim it was it was a mistaken identity so he should have been feeling remorse yeah and said i’m a bad man he looked like he had a doughnut in his head yeah that’s right i absolute absolute terrible mate terrible piece of i’ve never heard anything so cold in my life bad no sense no feeling that’s what they say in it yeah yeah all right so all that drama was going on then and you um you guys the you got the mi5 on you and everybody they’re my five special brands and the only reason i knew at the time i got nick i was i was going out i was going where was i going tennery for somewhere like that and i used to have a burberry bag when we doing and i’ve gone through they’ve snatched it off me counted it and i knew you could take ten thousand pound out of the country at that time and they said mr gone were you going with this ten thousand pound that’s what what the it were you who are you so where’s officers from special branch than that right so anyway i’ve swallowed that thing okay i said i’m going to spend it what do you think i’m going to do and took me back back and just went because you could have that in them days but unbeknown to me and i didn’t find out until 2006 when all the paperwork come through they sat on the plane at the side of me and that sat on the plane in front of me and they come to spain with me and everything so it was them but it was good it was very good i’ll give them that it was excellent mate when you go through your police paperwork and you know that’s before the days of the drones and that but yeah it was on you there was good the photos they had was amazing god knows how they got him yeah god knows so there was headlines scene shotting them now we we’ve got a lot of american viewers uh are not familiar with a lot of this terminology yeah could you explain what shotting them how that came about that name well shotting them because they were saying there was over 20 shootings a month on that i mean and and not just aimed at the best woodlot it was all over black on black white on white and everything there was lots of it but it was called shotting him because they’re saying the city’s not safe the plea because at the time the police didn’t come up best would we please best wood at the time police didn’t come up a park or or drive around or anything we did it so could you expand on that if the viewers you saying you policed it yeah what does that actually mean meaning people who say if someone got burgled they don’t phone the police they phone me and colleen aladds have find out who’s done it tekken rand wear them in get the people to tread on the reds and all that or or smash their hands in with hammers and that’s the sort of thing that went off in them went right down there was no joyriding on the estate because of the children none of that and they’re playing football on the streets anybody who joyride they had their legs done anybody who stole from i said had their hands done that’s what used to happen so i think the americans would relate that into kind of like the mafia don corleone yeah we’ve seen this kind of but we won’t know mafia or we’re just just people looking after his own and you know if someone’s burgling your neighbors let’s get the stuff back and make them feel embarrassed you can beat them and they’re not going to grasp you because they’re not getting grass themselves yeah so you just used to put them to sleep so the next um terminology then that we need to explain to you is the burger bar boys what does that mean the burger bar boys they’re they’re the birmingham lads they they’re relatively they’re at war with the johnsons aren’t there but i know a lot of the burger bars and i’ve got a lot of good friends in the johnsons so i don’t get involved in the mix although they don’t like me for talking to one side from the other but it’s all all jail things you know but yeah there’s some good stuff in them and it’s all started in the rave days didn’t it where they were used to good drilling and slagging each other off on the mic and that’s what started it yeah that’s what doesn’t it so you know colin um what he’s written to us he’s he said certain things that he wanted to get the record set straight on and one was there was an undercover cop who wrote about infiltration burger bar boys yeah has he written about you guys as well he’s written books on us just to feather his own nest no one’s ever met him we in besswood we we call him the crackhead cop that’s what we call him i’m not gonna name him anyone who wants to can google it right but it was a complete out and out drug addict and the closest he got to notting was mansfield on park benches smoking crack with junkies right he’s never infiltrated us because let me be straight here in that day when we when we was proper on top and giving it out right if if we come in the bar and say sean it didn’t know you and seen you in that one of our bars would say who the are you who yeah with get gone and get get ready and then you’d have them all sieving at the mouth all the young tall toured up reddit so we’re doing so who said no you’re not doing it but that’s how it wasn’t then there’s just be two or three hundred of us in the pubs and if you didn’t know his person what’s he doing in there who wants to sit in a bar with 200 youths who were firing and sniffing and smoking and and talled up you’re not going to want to sit there unless you’re all built so you just get rid of them that’s how it was yeah so we didn’t have no there’s no way we’ve ever been infiltrated by the old bill anybody never been infiltrated and then because of all this then you get you get the wanker offers and all that start calling your brother names in that which unfounded and i’ve got all the evidence here off the police because in the police paperwork it says doesn’t if they infiltrate you or not so you know right away yes in mind they said he couldn’t infiltrate us that’s why the authorized wiretap that’s why they do it that’s why they do the bookings yeah because that comes after after if you can’t be infiltrated they put they put tags in your ass and cameras in your ass yeah and the favorite one is where the shoe into your carpet through your letterbox if you fire an arrow into your thing i had one in my ass for four months you had to find a pin it’s a minor opinion and you can’t change your carpet and it has an 100 meter radius to near every conversation yeah yeah yeah holy how about it all 100 meters so you’re sat there whispering in your in your living room with your door shut they can hear you oh my god shagging your misses they’ll you’re shagging your misses it’s the kids who are thinking about getting into the drugs lifestyle don’t do it i think you just delete your text they’re not gonna catch ya what do you say to these kids you’ve got gangster i say don’t do it man mate get a job live your life don’t end up like me and my brother seriously because there’s no dough in it because when you get neat they’ve just took 1.2 million off me so when you get neat they’re going to take everything you’ve got and you’re going to come out scratching your knackers thinking what am i going to do now but you’re going to be wanted like jesse james you can’t do all so keep away from it get a job and make your mum a dad proud that’s all i’ll say about it and i drove that into my grandchildren it’s got to the point now in america if you’re a teenager in your parents car and you’ve got weed in the car cops seize the car and keep it doesn’t it civil asset fought for sure oh yeah yeah just have it now so your mum and dad lost a car yeah [Laughter] so there was a few other stories and legends that you guys wanted to address you and your brother wanted to address what was a journalist wasn’t there yeah there’s a journalist we we we call him the cokehead journalist i’m not going to mention his name he’s not worthy of it but he’s wrote books on us complete fabrication he’s labeled my brother a police informer which could it entirely put his life at risk in the prisoner state you know and then what he’s done then is he’s fed the information on to other journalists then he gets it’s repetitive it gets repeated and repeated and repeated but colleen’s got no voice because he’s iris kate he’s been iris kate for 17 and a half year now so now i’ve got all i’ve got all the information here off the police you’ve had a copy sean and yeah so all the information off the police saying colleen’s never been an informant and he’s never been paid for information and at the time of the so the so-called informing it was 2001 to 2002 he’d been in spain for two years on the run for for some afraid you know so he can’t possibly be informing especially on other gangs that ain’t my brother anybody who knows me and my brother knows that won’t be tolerated you’d just be you’d just be gone so you know you i’ve watched these videos and these journalists or youtubers or whatever they’re just like same with authority in this year you know colin became a police informer and that’s how he was able to like keep you know the cops wouldn’t investigate him for things and he’d go and investigate his competition they saw this all come from the thing where we had a palo and who was a manager of the shop lime is right on one day i mean i don’t have nothing to do with old bill or anything but one day the the pet fellow running he’s running out of color he says cole charlie is joining the old bill and he said he’d be good for information on that right but colin said well i’m not interested mate but in the end because you say you’re in tan and people get whacked will get whacked out they get dressed up so you’ll you’ll see your phone jail and say jane that’s charlie use grass steering me and then you know people going around having a word and all the charges were dropped you can’t do it now but in them days that’s what used to happen and and then it’s gone from that to was buying him thousand pound armani suits and all the bollocks it never happened never happened i don’t know if colleen ever gave him a drink through jay but you know in in our firm at the time we don’t pay please there’s an indian fellow there and they used to be into the scooters and the paladin done a shot called icon scooters right so a couple of they’ll bill you to come down there they had an opening party and that you should be there and the police say leave it dave don’t say oh to him because they’re buying scooters off me he used to go to vietnam getting all the scooters doing them all or vespers and lambretta’s and they’re selling them in his shop but you know there’s been no informing and no payments you know but i think they all got jail in the end because of charlie j grove got free i think charlie fletcher so fletch is the one there’s the the dominant one in the news stories is that colin put this guy into the police force yeah nonsense never never met him never met the pun never met him and then and then the junkie author in his book is saying that colin was at school with him and all that was either the author or or the crackhead one was sitting in his book one of their books colin was at school with him and that colleen’s a lot older than him no he went to school with him no one knew him never met him but so one of the other myths then that we wanted to dispel um there was a woman wasn’t there that was saying things about colleen yeah yeah what happened was i mean the fella’s doing life now i won’t mention his name but he’s doing live for a murder in nottingham he was out with his with his wife at the time and her friend was out so she said she fancied colin so he’s ranked come out for a drink where’s cole this bird fancies you so colin’s gone out and he’s met this bird and at the end of the night they’ve gone back to a hotel but she sat up on sniffing coke and taking pills so nothing’s gone off and then it’s gone on for about another two or three days and he’s never he’s never done her but she’s then gone to the police schizophrenic it’s turned out she is right but she’s gone to the police and they’ve had it for nine weeks and she’s saying to him yeah colleen’s told me about the murders of the stirlings we’ve had gang meetings in basements with drug dealers constant bollocks what she was telling but anyway the information was that reliable she wasn’t even a witness on the murder charge you know it was just total nonsense and they knew it were total bullets and they had a nine weeks that’s it i mean i don’t even know the bird’s name but just disregard everything she says but then you get the author then jumping on it colin had a penchant for teenage girls he didn’t have a pension for teenage girls it went out with a young girl at 19 colin were 32 i think she were 19 and they lived together for a few weeks that was it you know but you don’t make your sex offender she’s 19 for sake oh we’re married at 19. two kids just desperation isn’t it yeah desperation but because if you throw enough someone’s going to stick something exactly some will stay and and to destroy your your image you’ve got to destroy the name so once you destroy the name by saying you’re a grass you’re this your teenage girls your mif’s gone you know and that’s how they do it yeah you see it all the time all the time well yeah yeah just complete wankers mate yeah that’s what they like to do so you know as you’re getting towards your longer sentences then when was colin actually sent down for his big one we was on trial for the murders we started was i was on remand i was on remand in january 05 i went on trial for the murders for four months in i think it was june yeah june june the 6 06 and then it finished in about october what was it yeah hectic hectic lot of security a lot of security every now and again because was all i risk at easy so you’re strapped up in pursuits and with prisoner on the back and everything helicopters cars guns all around the courts guns are drawn anyway every now and again they’re rushing to the court aiming mack tens and all that and then eckler and kosh rifles and the jury are doing that just to show each other that they’re there for you know that’s what they were doing and the judges stand up get out my court and all that so the me can off out the court but the damage is done the damage is done because every morning you see when the jury are coming in the jury was under under police guard yeah so they can’t be infiltrated they’re claiming so as they’re pulling into court we’re pulling in at the same time and all there’s all coppers down the middle of the road like that dogs on roofs helicopter over and above where i’m pleased hanging out and that’s how you pull into the gates and the jurors see you they know it’s you so to make sure they know it’s you they rush the court with guns out so then they think yeah this is them this is they are coming into this armed escort so that’s a implied guilt to the jury yeah we’ve got to do all this 35 grand a day for transport i know that for four months i’ve spent millions on it absolute millions just just shake that all the time yeah yeah yeah it’s just it’s just nonsense yeah nonsense mate so what what like did you get to look at the jury and all that yeah you select them you you your qc select them so i think we have 50 odd and you just pick 12 out of them but you know you say you don’t you don’t select him your q season the judge will select him and the clerk of the court but you you turn around and say i don’t like him um he look he looks this or he looks it so i know his face and like but we didn’t know the faces because it was it was the middle of birmingham but you know but you get rid of who you you think you you don’t like because some people have that wrong look about them if they’d have found you guilty how much time would you got i died in prison i think my brother got a 35 i got the same this podcast is sponsored by harry’s harry’s is way more than a super sharp razor company they’re here to revamp your whole routine from close shaves and flake-free hair all the way to clear healthy skin harry’s helps guys feel great for this sponsorship harry’s is offering a free travel sized 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especially people like my brother and that you just lose your temper you start offering them out when they’re mentioning jamie you bastards and and all that you know he used to lose his temper blessing but you have to you have to kind of calm down a bit don’t you in that scenario because you want you want a good standing you want them to think you you’re not a div and you’re quite intelligent i drew me here i had curly hair i had glasses on it looked like a nonce wait don’t meet me he’s a sex offender not a murderer and all that and i got acquitted one of them you just sit downstairs then you ring ring caught one everyone’s caught one you feel your verdicts up you go it’s a question they want a question so five weeks after that passed out yeah just questions it was torture me but uh you know me i i i 100 knew that i’ve done nothing wrong and i’ve told the truth so i’ve got nothing to hide and brother in them they’re innocent but they’ve been found guilty saying so uphill awful struggle now well even though you knew you were innocent the court is theatre isn’t it yeah it’s they’ve spent all that money they’ve put in the best fiat and the best actors win it yeah but i i had a qc called trevor boak it was absolutely outstanding i had orlando panel first but he had he done the omar bombing after that so i got trevor burke so absolute outstanding brilliant qc and no prisoners so that helped your confidence yeah but it helps your confidence because it and you know you know you think you clued up on it all but legal jargon they lose you they lose you with it all so you’re writing things down and giving them notes and they’re saying yeah yeah and all that but really they’re thinking off i’ve got this in the bag and they used to come down after i said this in the bag dave don’t worry about it it’s in the bag so i was quite confident where until until the verdicts come in i thought there we go yeah because john john and tricky were first they got found guilty then so when they got found guilty you think you know we’re all up me they’ve got fangirls we’re here then um lenel he got fanned not guilty uh mckinnon got found not guilty shane bird not guilty kevin not guilty calling guilty then me not guilty so you were last i was last year how did it feel when they found your brother guilty it devastated me devastated because really i should have been the happiest man in the world but i was gutted i i can’t be happy so that’s it now you’ve got the downright art and the opera and the opera you know you’re going to be going absolutely but they’re clashing and colliding and you just imploding because i’m thinking i mean mum’s going to feel she’ll be happy for me but she can’t show happiness because of my brother and all that you know how your family’s gonna feel it was a horror horrible time mate but but you know after after being on remand for two years in the end because of the drug charge and everything and getting found not guilty you don’t get an apology you just get looked at like you’ve got away with it then they take all your dough off you yeah that’s what they do yeah even people who are innocent on death row they’re not getting apologies don’t get an apology no apologies to give you a few quid enjoy but i’ve never even got a few people i never got never got all like chalk yeah so were you released right away that day no i mean no i went downstairs i thought i played this here i’ve gone downstairs i said not guilty under the gate i’m off let me out the cell said no we’re waiting for the warrants to come back was the gun so now get the door undone my family are out there i want to go anyway they come back say no you’re a man for a conspiracy you’re statement you have to stay in for a bit i stayed in for another another two and a half years yeah and then i got released i was in i’ve got barred from the old city in nottingham i had a big red map where i couldn’t enter on the m1 i had to go through derby to come on up next junction and all that took it took her to elkiston and all that places and then um i got recall for swearing i swore in a hostel called someone a fat bastard one of the women who were they hitting me on the head with a letter saying you’re late mr gun that’s your final warning you broke your curfew i said i’m not on a curfew curfews lifted every tuesday so i’m like out pissed up so i snatched the envelope through it in the face says off your fat bastard i’ll see the manager about you in the morning five o’clock in the morning five guns in my head off you go off you go back kate went to wood hill then straight straight back to full sun kate again so was the time that you were serving with your brother yeah yeah it was unremanded me and my brother was the first romance at long law and because at the time at wakefield right we were just dead blows eight for the king of the wing we’re not nonsense we do what we’re one i’m remember two murders what you’re going to do about it you know what can you say yeah anyway miss sodor’s gone in one night i’ve got the phone on my ass and there’s a battery on charge under under my big power buster and it’s on charge they got that got the battery said where’s the phone dave i saw how cons left the battery there and blacked it i got five days cc my last day of cc i’ve gone on a visit there’s me colin and charlie bronson so i’m on a visit made a fuss of each other we’re sat there on the visit and um they’ve come said terminate your visit you’re gone straight to reception gone long lawton yeah first reminds here what was the first time you met charlie bronson charlie i met charlie in 98 was on e-wing at lincoln it was a special unit at the back of seawing and he come off here and used to have a medicine ball called birther brilliant blue brilliant boost to 100 press up hundred sit-ups and he won’t get banged until he’s done them all and every landing and then he’d run around the landing dead fast absolute fantastic brilliant loved him have you seen him deck any guards oh yeah he he swung out a few you after at wakefield when was all on the special unit there you know yeah there’s five yards and you have me and me and colin in one because we’re co-accused and family and charlie are being one there’s beside writing another you know all going down and charlie will start exercising he’ll cover himself in cocoa butter and all that sweating up some food they’ll say time time to come and charlie fac off you slag yeah that’s what you used to say and then it was on he used to come out with the team ended and he brought him but you can’t help him because you’re locked in you in your thing you can’t get out this cage is between you you can’t get out mate but charlie’s gamers fault mate it was at full something where he was in the seg there he was sending bits over good stuff and he’s still in hell his favorite still in hell is good shape but we had a dave courtney in them they had a free charlie bronson fight at colic all years ago so charlotte charlie rang me right and he said dave you’ve let me down you said you was coming to this free charlie dude and i said charlie i was there me i sat with your brother and your mother who’s all there i’ve got a picture i’m going to post at you today he says you well my brother told me you weren’t there so i posted the picture then he wrote to us like i’m really sorry dave he said he was there thank you for the picture he says he’s a toss of my brother he went mad about it but i love charlie i do my proper good power do you think you’ll get out i hope so but he’s got he’s got a long long upwell battle mate we’ve had to play him yeah my mate um kerry danes who’s a forensic psychologist she’s helping him yeah oh isaac’s i’ve seen her on on them think crime channels yeah yeah she’s good yeah she’s good yeah blondie bow didn’t it yeah yeah yeah what about was it mordsleys they said he’s at the brains he’s awake he’s a welsh kid but he’s never getting out he’s doing a natural life and he is a proper expert with computers he gets he teaches the staff now through glass is wizard with computers and that’s just it’s just a proper brainy kid but you don’t see much of him and he won’t speak to you but he’ll nod at you as he’s walking past because on them units you’re on single unlock so when he’s in a cage modes he’s a glass cage so you walk by say oh hey matt rob you’re right he said hmm and there’s not a you know if he if he got near you’d want to kill you won’t he because not that you’re nonsense but you just want to kill you don’t want he wants to kill everybody but charlie didn’t like him charlie hated him how did that manifest i don’t know he’s just over years have been on in them i think he’s because he’s a weirdo in that and charlie’s into fitness and that he just wants to lie on his bed and walk up and down his cell yeah a few of our guests said they saw mosley and they described it as like a hannibal like animal letter yeah in the glass box yeah that’s what he’s in on the ssu at wakefield yeah downstairs because then he like was it his soulmate he got us a couple of them in his cell anything yeah he spooned the brain they said he had the brain whether he did and he didn’t deny doing that but but it killed him in them they had them them silver trays with three compartments on he’s chopped the top of the heads off with the side of the tray yeah and dug the reds out dug the brain out and then he go to the garden said there’s going to be one lesser country yeah chew off tonight god two off tonight but the time before that was when he went to broadmoor and and it was one off then see i think he’s done three yeah but you know obviously in jail things get added on that and that because i’ve never really spoke to him about it because i love i love love to talk to people about things like michael stone i’ve i’ve been saying he’s innocent for decades right and he is innocent he’s innocent mate another innocent guy and we had him on the channel was kevin lane kevin lane’s my good pal yeah yeah i love kevin catwald kev yeah brilliant brilliant kid yeah proper proper good kid fittest man in the system um lair mart lane they used to call him because he used to just flatten him the fittest man in the system made no one thought we’d kev what prison did you meet him i was in i think i was in long laughing with him to start with and then years later i bumped him bumped into him in franklin that was on f-wing and i think he was on e-wing and we used to go to the gym because he had the record for rowing record for everything fittest man in the whole system kevin super fit yeah super fit proper proper good kid and i love it when i seen him on on your podcast without a look and i’ve seen him always out mate thank god for that because it was a long slob for it did he call him for the bit isn’t he back out again no he’s out now yeah i know he got rico for about nine months didn’t he yeah but he’s out now bless him but you know i know people who know him i always always ask questions because he was dating that was it kerry caton or someone he was in this in the paper whether he was or not he was dating kerry katona on one stage said go on kev good lad so did you say you had history with dave courtney you know yeah courtney i met paul he was one of our first podcast guests yeah corny’s all right this slaughtered them the cockney’s in that slaughter unfounded me i like dave i do but i was in marbella with him years ago and and you know we had a proper proper session with him and all his entourage but 100 degree and they’ve all got suits on him and hats and everything i don’t believe it and i’m sweating for him but they were good stuff mate and on the plane back the funniest thing i’ve ever heard he’s come down the plane it was with the mc at the time that i think julia was it or something her name was a black lady but it’s coming down the plane saying no he gonna ease ecstasy what you got i know that i thought help me i’m i’m wanted like jesse james he’s just up to me right up bless him and then then later i was in i was in wood hill again with manny clark the boxer from that way and he was mates with courtney and manny’s managed me good power so i used to say to his corners addressed me and i started ryan to courtney writing back to me to take care remember this in marbella and all that and he could remember me bless him then when we had the free charlie five made a fuss of each other there you know because he obviously remembered i mean and i’ll never forget him because one of the first books i read when i was in moreland’s as a younger one would stop the boss that was one of the first ones i read because i was no telling’s in them days just reading yeah yeah i sent wild man that butt when he was uh something i want to get off yeah yeah yeah not a bad bulk bless him he’s hilarious dave well it’s funny as far if you want to go back and watch it’s in the first 10 podcasts we ever did we were at his house and uh we’d love to do a part two with him as well so yeah we’re just gonna try and arrange that yeah yeah so have you got any stories from spain other stories from spain yeah i’ve had a few good stories in spain i lived there for five years i had a field doing all the all the tobacco and all that and we were on the run out there yeah i was on the run out there yeah but usually i had a villa there when when colin was on the run he was in reveal and then i was but i was out there and coming back i had a my friend who obviously sadly died now but in the end you could go to the post office with the idea and get a year’s passport so someone get a year’s passport come back on it get another one and go back yeah and and do all that but spain was great mate we’ve to we used to go through the pyrenees with with the facts you pay the gypsies to take you through on your lorries and that was a good time i loved it what about the police out there you don’t mess around anyone in the civil guardians i remember one time like the lads have come out to see me and you know they’re all pot heads in that so we’re on the strip one of them has built a spliff at the bar so he can’t do that in ear chopper he said i’m chopping david said what the i want so anyways lit it up at the bar so if god is snatched out of his mouth he’s uppercutted him getting that banging the copper saw for fox hey chopper so guns was out and he’s gone off the wrestling they’ve gone and never seen him again for two weeks never seen them but they never got him they just did because they knew he was like he was on top wow on top to folk me i said you should never have done that mate because they remember you you know yeah remember and fill you in they take you in in benidorm you have a white cross on the mountain and that’s where they take you there and am here did you end up in the nic in spain no mate not me no clean clean living yeah used to do a few a few bits and bobs for people just to get a few quid you know but you have to you know serve a few up and that who’ve been faced it but get a few quid out of it to keep you going yeah you know while you’re waiting for your dough to come in and that yeah you’ve got a graph don’t you so how did you been on the run end to come back okay come back but in them days well i don’t know um i’d shot a shot at a dj pistol shot at a dj playing the wrong tune and in the younger days so i’ve had to off what was it some elvis tune or something like but we want to know the rave tunes in the bang bang bang shot the dis dj equipment not the dj the junior equipment all bailed out laughing his head’s off off straight away in the next morning and all the doors are going in and i’m i’m in spain get lovely turned around yeah great times great times but obviously all the lads lived out there we had a good time yeah good time out there mate enjoyed it so going through the prison system though for you know you’ve done 20 plus years who would you say is the most dangerous people you’ve ever met um [Music] well in in normal prisons anywhere else throughout your life dangerous people there’s a lot of there’s a lot of serious dangerous people yeah there’s a real real lot of serious dangerous people make but then there’s people who just don’t take no and don’t give two faults who aren’t dangerous but will turn dangerous so best best thing to do in jail is just be friendly with everybody mate that’s all you can be don’t bully don’t need to bully earn a few quid if you get a few bits be right with them and everyone wants everything don’t they so and you just live your life and fill your freezer be respectful we’ve got to be respectful and polite and don’t look down your nose at people because you know better than anybody else because you’re all cons don’t matter if you’ve got a million and a half quid outside you’re spending 25 quid a week in there yeah no matter how much you got you’re all the same what do you think about this new generation of armed robbers and dealers who come in now and they’re getting lifeed off in the like the teenagers really and they’re just fast to shoot people they’re fast for it now aren’t they i mean yeah i mean in our phone they was fast doing it but not this fast yeah it’s just right now all the humans in nottingham now they all walk around with them and you’ve got to be careful who you look at who you talk to you know because they don’t detect one poll and you i mean you can be fast but you’re not going to stop at 9 mil or a 38 oh yeah something stop it you know because your family has got a name and people young people think right that’s all generation we can make our name off that generation do you have you ever experienced any situations um people come up to you and say look we’re gonna do this we’re gonna do that but like drugs and things and i’ll educate him i’ll say look do it this way mate because i did it that way and i got naked and they look at you and they do this like what a div you don’t know what it’s all about yeah you do because you lit through it and done it all i had millions of quid out of it you know but it’s a trick there’s no getting through to somebody’s youngest yeah they’re blase they’re on a one-track mind they just want one they want wealth and they want it fast and and in the course of the wealth if people knock them and don’t pay them they’ll wig them why do you think it’s become so deadly i don’t know me i don’t because it weren’t like that in our day but then in addie there weren’t many guns about they’re prevalent now me they’re everywhere they’re reboring them you know starter pistols again reborn and filled in at the top but i don’t know people say it’s a rap scene it’s a drill scene and all that but it’s not it’s the people themselves you know you obviously want to do it or she won’t do it you can say i listen to that and and i’m going with the flow yeah but you don’t have to carry a gun don’t have too many or a knife knives are worse than guns for me can’t stand blades yeah so did you ever get attacked at all throughout your incarceration no never no never mate no did you see some heinous violence oh yeah yeah what kind of stuff i’ve seen slashings where they’ve had 380 from the neck to the waist when he was going off with the muslims and that it was going off bad slow down on that one and um what do you mean he was going after the muslims also and right they would say say obviously you get your white lads and you get your mixed race lads a lot of them are muslims the blacks are muslims and their asians are muslims predominantly but lovely kids but but yeah i have a muslim ruler on each wing of fulson and one’s overall ruler and he was on a wing i mean a london kid i don’t mention his name but he was the overall ruler of him so if he put a knit on you there’ll be 40 of them waiting for you near the gym and you go running up like we used to go up in a gang of 40 and 50 or to the gym on his own or the whites right but when sometimes one of the lads would run up front and they were waiting jump out slash it to fault face back the lot even though even though heinous are outrageous you know because you’ve probably said something wrong to him so what have this person done they’ve got the 300. well i think i think he each each him one of them and then what they used to do then on the wings now the windows up and that big so you everyone made shanks you file them all down off the ironing board legs and things like off off the light fittings snap on my father more down and flick them out your window so they go in the grass so as you go out you pick your tool up put it down your waist and that’s how it was people getting stabbed regular everyday stabbing slashings hot water and sugar the napalm you know all that nonsense regular thing with muslims and whites but because i had i had friends as muslims and i obviously my friends are white as well but a lot of a lot of the johnson crew was the muslims and there was my good close pals was all uh on romantic every woodhill and i had double murder trials together and all that all in the same crown courts so they used to say no man you know no one’s moving to d if anyone moves to d it’s on and all that because because obviously i’m having it with the whites but waiver terms didn’t get didn’t want to get involved with it don’t get involved in all that nonsense tricky unit because like i had a lot of co-defendants and they were wall races but then when you go in america it’s all you all separated yeah yeah yeah and it could mad over there was was there any riot situations no never no riots in top securities but you know there was there was there was brawls on the wings where the screws had legged contain the wing lock it off shield it all off so no one can get on or off and then then the mufti will come on and take the take the ones who’s responsible but they bang everybody up first it won’t ever come and grab you while the wings are out because a connie in a dispersal won’t see another con twisted up he does good for him if if you’re if they’re jumping another con all the screws they can’t the cons will jump then that’s what you have to do in them days that that’s the motto and and it’s all for one on one for all so that was it mate so a few of our guests have come on in the more recent years they said that the muslim prison population has grown to the point now where it is the strongest strongest especially in top securities strong strongest fault but there’s a lot of good lads in them there’s some good lads in the terrace they’re quite they’re quite witty and you you’ll get them the ed muslim of the wing when it when it’s um ramadan it’ll come round take your photos down give your tv give your mattress take everything off and put it outside the cell you’re not allowed to look at eyes and all that which is it’s the sharier thing in it and that’s that’s what they’re living on but you know don’t knock them that’s their thing so leave it with me i don’t knock him don’t criticize him if that’s what you want to do you do that you know i’m not telling you to eat a bacon sandwich but i’m cooking it’s as simple as that so over your many years imprisonment have you seen drug culture change drug culture change now it’s all that bollocks mambana spice but you know what they’re doing it with they’re mixing it well there was when i on my last sentence it was mixing it with floor cleaner and and something there’s putting some some other mixture in with it and selling it for 100 quid a4 paper and people smashed collapsing on yards and that smoking paper and just gone gone on the yard it horrendous me and then we used to say phone and ambulance that’s what we say to him he’s fought phone in ambulance he’s just gone mate there was collapsing all over the jokes a bad pandemic terrible so i i was in from like 2002 to 2007 and it was mostly heroin but there was some crystal meth yeah a lot of injecting going on was all that changed then yeah there’s nothing there’s no arrow in there mate unless unless a junkie will fancy someone you’ll swallow a bit but it’s all that mamba there’s no there’s no jail in it and people are wigging out on the mamba yeah gone gone but i remember the airwind days where they’re just sitting there doing that scratching it’s just there’s got to get in the balls the balls the nose big red nose yeah it’s terrible and then then dave i was happy with an answer squidgy black and just sitting roll a few spliffs and get your napa done you out take you out of the zone for a bit did you prefer having cell mates i’m not having so many i don’t like soul mates i’ve never really had him i had to do it because he was a diabetic and well to each other but after that i’ve never had a soulmate since that’s like living in a toilet with someone in there yeah well you know you have your toothbrush there on that and you can’t let people have a or fart where your toothbrush is yeah and all that so i used to wrap mine up when i was we saw his wrap it up some dead ocd with things johnny’s had to wrap him up and everything but after that i said listen on me i reassociate back mate otherwise i’m going to kick off i’m not i’m not having tuned up with no and i never did it again but in dispersals you don’t get too low so in longer sentences you slip into a routine it goes starts going fast doesn’t it yeah yeah what was your routine my routine i did i only ever trained legs never done top half well strong as on legs i i was pressing four seventies but i could only get seven never got ten i was curling three forties and all that on like my legs were massive but i’ve not been for nothing for about five years now but meruti was a gym three times a week in the morning and come back because i was a cleaner on the wing fry your breakfast up have a good breakfast a good protein shake get your food out the freezer for your nighttime meal you know we use fourier on the food boat so one one day someone will cook a chicken curry next day steak and chips you had a bit of salmon you had all sorts of bolognese all that sort of stuff it’s a good routine mate and you put some good sides on this is what the american viewers are very curious about because in supermax in america you can’t yeah your canteen is restricted you give you a little anti-shank thing you can write letters with anti-shank toothbrush like this and um they let you out for handball like every three or four days of a hamburglar come and shout at like four in the morning when you sleep yeah so you don’t hear it yeah yeah yeah it sounds like you’ve got a lot more liberties in the top securities i’d rather be in them if i ever got locked up against 40c cats and then because trainers send me back to dispersal with proper people because they’re all proper people the majority is never leaving the prison again and they all respect each other unless he goes off you know proper folk because it doesn’t go off as much because there’s more serious consequences yeah well it’s death it’s death it’s a death it’s death mate the consequences you’re going in the ground if it’s on you so you’ve seen it go off i’ve seen you offloads time did you give any stories on that fool well i i was in um i’m at the mention his name i watched him kill somebody in long lawton stabbed his throat out sex offender there’s been a few of them there’s been a few good stabbings with where they’ve gone yeah yeah they’ve been a few of me but the kid who was doing life and got another 25 year on top so a lovely kid from london as well another londoner lovely kid called dave my good good good pal was like that where it was at full sun is our coals good mate now as well so you’re saying it’s it’s usually over charges or is it over the depths well if you’re a beast and you’re coming on the main wing you’re going to get killed you can’t come on the wings yeah you can’t go oh you’re a grass you’re a nuns you go on the numbers mate why would they fly undercover well people people just like like to be classed as normal don’t because a lot of nonsense don’t think they’ve done it wrong no i mean even though they know the consequences of the difference i don’t know if it’s not naivety or what but some of them are just blasey to what’s going to happen to them right and then they’re walking off and there’s a big tool hanging out inside your neck and you hit the ground and you’re gone yeah like you should have stayed on the numbers your bastards that’s what i say so you see those guys get filtered out faster yeah what about disputes between the fellas does that ever kick off well what they’ll do it kicks off regularly but mainly fighting not a lot of stabbings of a dispute say say your stereo is too loud turn your stereo down i can’t hear the telly and then and it will go off so in the morning someone will be pacing the cell up and down on that para you know sharpening up and you tell him leave it out mate leave it i will sort it in the morning so they’ll come out in the morning they’ll have a swing at each other roll around they both go down the block and then they’ll come up they’ll shake hands in the block they’ll come on the wing but then it’s festering then so it goes off again and that’s when they have to get rid of one of them right one has to go you can’t keep it once it kicks off you’ve got to shift one of them or if it say for example if it kicks off with you and you’ve got 30 poles on the wing they’re not going to move you they’ll move this feather yeah because of all your poles will get in yeah i mean that’s how it is because quite often you see them punch it out then they’re having a hug and a smoke yeah i spoke together but then in your mind you think i’m going to kill you you can’t right that’s how it is but hey you’re right there was a kid called ian wright a jock kid absolute gentleman he’s been moved to shots prison ian mcateer liverpool liverpool had done his murder apparently right so um he’s having an argument on the yard with a kid on the wing i said knock it on the eddy and the kid’s all right he said no no no i’m going to i’m going to chip him i’m going to cheer him anyway ian’s gone in his cell slammed the door shut shook the blade at him and says come on one of us dying so the screaming against after fault but the screws saved him wow great yeah good old ian lovely fellow mate lovely loyal as and his brother gets me now on through youtube when i’ve been on youtube and looked at them videos of me and colin his brother’s left comments and i said you ian’s brother and all that yeah give him my best me and where is he now he’s in shots dave and i’ll tell him you asked for him and all that you know that’s how you get that into that facebook what about suicides and self-harm plenty of suicides and self-harm every day every day cell phone rips up there rips up their necks ripped every day mate is that because i meant little nests depression it’s mental illness um it’s your family of you off because no friends you see you see him looking out the window waiting for the girlfriend’s car to come it’s not coming yeah and every week they’re looking out the window where is it never on the best thing ever you know he got 35 wreck he took him from birmingham crown court straight to long law and didn’t bring him back to wood hill yeah we stuck it on the screw if one of us get fangirled so we’re going to do you in your right so you’ve got found guilty so they moved him straight there he found his missile he said look wait just got a 35 wreck from this damien you’re finished going to live your life it says i’m no good to you now babe just live your life which is a manly thing to do definitely leaving them hanging on and sat there scratching your neck as shagging your shirt tonight and all that balance what that did you have a word for that guy because we did i think it was sancho sanchez with your business okay good name a good day my kid but it’s sad isn’t it because uh that’s the lifeline all those visits with the missus for a while well that’s that’s the thing to keep you on the level and focus when it’s gone you’ve got nothing to lose you want to die and you know a lot of people do they want to die they don’t mind fighting and getting stabbed they’re not bothered are they so yeah yeah it’s horrendous me but it’s horrible when you rely when you’re relying on women like me and they blow you you shouldn’t be relying on women be relying on yourself the visits help you get through your yeah yeah i love my visits from our family my family are keen on the you know love my family what do you like in the high security visits yeah good good visits can we sit with a person or are you behind the scenes when you’re high-risk kate there’s a screw at your table where you’re like he’s visiting you were you at the table yeah you’re at the table now you’re at the table you sat there with a tape recorder and you sat there with your business you’ve got tape recorder taping you and writing notes down writing notes down about you and everything absolute scandalous but that’s because your iris category are you allowed to have a hug and everything yeah you can do all that can org and all that mate yeah but they’ll say right what get his stuff from there they’ll bring it through so you have to go to the canteen or before the visit started order all the stuff go in and then the person from the cantina bring the stuff through so you can’t drop out in it you know that’s what these two is it was probably it was militant so in terms of getting food for your visit do they have machines a lot of the gels now they’ve got machines as well as kiosks for when the kiosks are short but for certain you could buy you could buy fresh sandwiches apples pears oranges you could buy it bananas your visitors got to do that your visitors have to you can’t buy them but because you come in waiting for them and you come in obviously in handcuffs because your irish cater undergarden that yeah so you get bought down in the course they take them off you go and sit down and then your visitors will come into you and then the bird will come in will you try again so did you get access to better food through visits no well it’s better food it’s better food than poxy sea cats than that but but it’s not better food than it is on the wing because we’re never at prison food apart from some we had sandwiches in that but you’re buying loafs of bread you’re buying everything you’re buying or your spreads cheese so you said you could spend 25 quid a week on connection how it works yeah yeah you just have a sheet of paper is it yeah like say that say like that size yeah you get probably seven sheets in a dispersal yeah front and back full of everything tins of beans tins of ravioli everything you can buy from tesco join some beef chicken yeah it’s not from tesco but everything you can buy again yeah yeah joints of beef chickens fish get everything what are your what are your favorites curries always got in with the indians yeah yeah you said you want rice and peas they have some good jamaican sebby and all them proper good kids and some making some chicken soup used to use to cook the chicken at dinner strip it all in that and then boil it for the next morning and that was your soup put chilis in front boiled dumplings everything’s beautiful so in america the theory behind not cooking and not having weight is it’ll all be weaponized yeah does that stuff get weaponized in the uk no mate because you go to the office with your key and say gives that knife a carving knife to chop your meat up with it and that’s the top security you give them your key or your card and they put it on the oak and they give you the blade they say right you’ve got half hour with it gunny then take it back in half hour and if you want it again give them your card again again yeah you get a half hour limit with them but if you want to if you want to serve somebody up it happened at franklin right so what they actually are there they’ve rounded all the ends off of the knives there were no points on them after that after someone got stabbed up there yeah but crazy you could just go and ask for a knife and go if you wanted to kill someone just stick it in them yeah and they’ve given you the knife yeah americans watching this are just good their minds are getting yeah and that’s top security we we’re where they search every day for weapons because you’re cutting even the weights people’s heads were getting crushed all the way down yeah actually because it’s state by state yeah so arizona where i was there they all got took out it out yeah yeah every state has different laws and different prison systems and different rules and different gang rules yeah box in 98 i had the visa and everything got off the plane at jfk big black fella on the thing i’ve given him a passport scandi said not coming in here punk got a drug conviction man straight downstairs from thursday to tuesday downstairs in the cells with the red suit on and i thought why the am i i know i’ve sat on the plane and about 30 out of the lads have come on all with macy’s bags and everything i didn’t get at the airport and the cells underneath fuming missed the fight and everything got deported back yeah about on the same flight though but they just won’t let me in in the country they said you can’t come in sorry you’re banned from the ban from america so i never tried again but i had a visa yeah obviously they’ve double checked it and said no you 10 pound wrapper was it was that was my drug conviction not coming in punk looking back on your entire life what was the high and the low the high and the low that the high was when i had all my money and i was what was that i had all my money up until 2004. that then i’ve got a lot of early 2005 then it ended with finding it and everything fan loads you know because they did the work and you know we’ve had them on as the top boys have been honest the james bonds are the crew they’ve been honest so they know they watch where you go in the picture where you go in and all that and and the serious though was my jamie obviously it’s been my worst low in my life still close to this day when your brother got guilt you know that was probably that was a serious low as well but james jamie was the worst you know colleen’s a big man he he couldn’t he can handle it that’s through him but you know at the time i had to give him a life for our jamie just to be he’s only a young kid yeah and not seen life at all just had a boy heartbreak yeah heartbreaking mate sad sad you know you just never get over it mate you never get over it losing losing one of your kids in that mid sister especially it’s terrible definitely what about funny stories from your party days hell fire we’ve had some crackers yeah that’s some real real cracker funny ones mate you know obviously i’m telling you about about omar i want to have some good ones with him yeah that’s some proper good parties mate but funny i’m i was always into the football there with me you just concentrate on the on forest and going to all the games in there and having it on the terraces yeah young days so i was thriving off it i loved it so you’ve gone for you found a rise at a foot soldier yeah ooh colton leeched that yeah yeah yeah well he called had a few words about his didn’t he on that law of the gun documentary i don’t know each was on there about he picked us up to be fair too yeah i respected him for it because a lot of them will come on and slag the office young they’ve done that killing them and you know and all that being been convicted of that but he didn’t he come on and and proper glorified it felt yet good lads and he was on there with me paul wayne nordic but they both put good words in for us which was nice to see somebody at least saying something nice about you because after all the media bollocks and all that you’re just getting assassinated every time yeah and it gets to the state where you’ve had enough of it you fancy swinging at someone but you don’t know who they are who’s leaving comments because you get all them detrimental comments off wankers on under pseudonyms and all that and you’re never never going to find them and they never never you could leave your number they’d never ring you and say come on i’ll meet you and let’s have a straightener on the field they’re like cell warriors yeah just wankers you want to shout out the window putting different voices on they’re just tossers and they all know who we’re on about all people who’s watching this now a lot of you have done it you know you’re all wankers it’s as simple as that how did you become friends with curtis warren curtis michael powell i knew courtesy in 92 when we’re doing the ball stop no 83 when we’re doing the ball stall and then obviously you moved on and moved on he’s got big in the game and that cocky book come out in in in the in the early 90s when i’ve read it and then i bumped into him he was on the special unit without cole and i bumped into him at full sun and he come there i say help curtis and colleen’s brother david says i know you lad and all that other organ that been just dead good pulse since then good stuff good stuff but if super fit went down to that curtis did because he was a big unit one of me went down to super fit tech padded tennis badminton a lot super super fair lovely love the guy to bits and i hope he gets out soon mate because it’s wrong what they’ve done to that fella what did he do to him well they would get him another 10 for the for the proceeds of crime you he went to the phone asking about the price of weed and got about 13 years and if that ain’t enough they’ve asked for 200 million for a phone call and get him 10 year on top so what do you do every day of it so he’s trying to shake him down yeah shutting him down because he because because of all the media you know the portraying was the richest criminal in british history his billionaire and it’s killed someone in a in a dutch jail and he’s done this and just throw all at you and you know you get people who read it and they think because it’s been written by a reporter it’s got to be true but reporters just want views and clickbait exactly and the the famous chestnut they use is it’s off a source but when can’t disclose the source so you can’t challenge it you know yes the source went to disclose it and that’s the line they use yeah complete tosses but if they have a senior they like it they won’t dream of coming up help i’m the reporter i’m i’m this and i’m this i’ve had it all about it for decades so on your longest sentence then did you work your way down from the cafe no yeah what i like to say i went to i went from cat a and then i ended up at loudoun grange for the last six months and then at that this i i was i was deemed mapper three level three the the danger to the public so they said to me you can’t we can’t enter the city of nottingham you’re moving from a straight away get your kickback took me straight to woodhill and about a week later i was released and i was in a hostel called four at four plans in northampton right but there that’s where i swore and got recalled after about two months and to be fair i didn’t want to be in the hospital anyway probably i’m with my kids than that you shouldn’t do all your bird forward four-year-old and then you’re stuck in the house still with answers what was your plan as you getting nearer to your release i was planning on just just resuming what i do to get dog i’ll do a couple of bits of debt collecting here and there no no threats right just going to say look yo this dough mate are you going to get it weighed in get get paid get good dough out of it i’ve had a few good ins and it helps you live doesn’t it so no drugs i’m never selling drugs again don’t want to go near them don’t touch drugs did my drugs have a couple of pints now i’ve had two pies today and that’s the first plans i’ve had for three and a half months not even had one yeah i’ve just stayed off it all and all these books then with all these legendary stories is there any other stories that you need to put to rest hmm well there’s there’s obviously one about me brother being a grass i’ve i’ve covered that um been being announced for shagging a 19 year old you know but there’s loads of stories one point to rest they’re all they’re all in their books but i mean i’ve got i’ve got things in here but what’s possible is there’s stuff in your notes that colleen wants us to go over yeah let’s have a look i mean i’ve done that i’ve done that crackhead copper idiot no one’s ever seen that man in his lives you know and bearing in mind he claims he’s infiltrated and got us all locked up was locked up by lincolnshire police no to doing nottingham holly’s never been nick for drugs in his life ass wasn’t there something going on with lincolnshire police versus not incomplete yeah what they’ve done um they got a telegram come through from nottingham she did from lincoln no joan stirland apparently had telephoned the the covering officer who dealt with them right who had a movie right phoned him said we’ve had a prowler in the garden and and the fella says right we’ll send an email to such-and-such lincolnshire they’ll come and see you in the next hour but it took him two days and when they come obviously there was deceased person but surrenders horrendous mate but then there was all at war over it see with colin right it was it was on it was on the trial he’s got another nine year nine year three month three months right for a police corruption with with the copper who worked at lyme is and all that right he got that but what he done he went to court sacked all his legal team and said look i’m doing a 35 rep for you trial off and said take me back to the nick so he got talked about the timing and never went again we got nine year three month on top of the 35 wreck right but on there with with them that wanker calling him aggressive that that is the time to say he was a police informant and this is how he was getting information on that but never got mentioned you know because it’s never happened and that’s a horrible thing about it it’s just to make him look a but he’s absolutely his fuming colonies and there’s that paper in nottingham um he wrote to them they took everything down off the internet this has all come from fellstrom he’s given the information print this story on colleen gunn so the print of the story anyway i’ve gone and seen him i said let me outrageous here paul i said there’s no foundation to this i’ve shown them all the paperwork so you know say it’s come off cold fell strong david said don’t believe the word the man says isn’t that in that junkie and all that but but anyway they took it all down and apologized wrote him a written apology out says but there’s lot there’s lots of things but they just wind you up don’t they wind you up mate yeah and then there’s this bird there’s a who who try to claim he’s told her things like fault something won’t talk to nobody won’t even talk to my mates yeah talk to people yeah you won’t talk to nobody especially about business her business got mentioned i mean now and again he had a line of gear but it was on steroids yeah you know maniac but down again he had a line and he’d come in the boozer and then did off because he didn’t want to be around us because that was all all out of it and all buzzing and you don’t like to see laughter and people enjoying themselves he just said solomon screw face and i’ll bang one of these and i’m off and the off yeah so how many siblings do you have i’ve got there’s me colin my sister julie obviously jamie’s mother and my young brother andrew who got kept clean out of it said you’re not getting involved me not getting involved in our life what does andrew think about all this great great because if he if he ever got neat for summer i’d have to swallow it and say i did it because i’m not my man with a good bomb he’s my young brother i mean he’s 50 but he’s still me baby did you get me and we kept him out of he’s got his own business tarmacking and dropping curbs and all that he does really well bless him proud of him to be fair and he stayed straight out of it how’s your mum coping with colin doing all day so it she swallowed it now mate but it’s difficult is it because she’s 79 millimeters so it’s very very very difficult but before she dies she wants this appeal to come through yeah and this is what i was saying about the the qc and what he’s done with the with the main witness corrupts his fault yeah and does she go visit him yeah regular yeah she’ll go once a month and the lads will go up like now i can visit him now because i finished my license i’ve had a gps tracker on for 20 months where they’ve been following me without following me so and it’s bit obviously bold so they can hear what you’re saying than that all right so dave has got a ton of stories we’re hoping to develop a book with him and get him back on at some point let us know in the comments if you would like to see a part two because you’re so much more but for legal reasons we can only cover so much at this point you know if you’ve sat here for this 90 minutes and watched it with us i think you can comprehend the magnitude of the story you know um the media realm of certain things but other things you know i’ve been very dramatic i’ll just leave it at that so there’s lots more to come and obviously there’s an important lesson here for the young people no matter how smart you think you are if you’ve got gangsteritis you might make some quick cash but the feds i’ve got all the technology in the world i can’t believe these kids they just think disappearing messages is going to protect them from getting busted these young generation of dealers they could go in and retrieve everything they had i flew people from england and put money in their names thinking i was smarter than the cops the department of justice had a net bus trojan horse virus in my computer seized everything there was arrested so yeah they’re always the police might be slow at first on you and you think you’re getting away with it but they’ve got all the resources in evidence they’re only slow because they ain’t got it yet but they’ll get after you’ve rang him yeah it’s a big conspiracy then so children keep away from it lads don’t make the mistake me and my brother made me i’m lucky i’ll beat the murder trial my brother’s doing a 35 wreck and it’s a death sentence lads so no need for it mate honestly even if one of you don’t do it we’ve accomplished somewhere aren’t we so keep away people watching these videos dave quite often they want to reach out to the guest um are you on socials or anything i don’t do social media mate um [Music] i don’t i don’t do each one but unless unless someone wants to have a chat with me i don’t mind having to chat with him they can phone you and you can ring me i’ll i’ll ring them not probably so contact our social media um platforms if you want to get ahold of dave and then we’ll forward your message to dave and he’ll you know decide what to do about that so yeah let us know in the comments what you thought about this um amazing massive story good to see dave smiling and once again he’s in such good shape after everything he’s been through six days in the coma and everything else so yeah huge thank you coming up brilliant and i’ve got to make put a few people straight and there’s no bullets on it i mean people believe what you want to believe but i don’t tell lies this is how it is the rest of bollocks not not me so that’s that thank you and i’ll see you all again no doubt all right cheers take care of that take care all year cheers thanks bye-bye
The History Of Nottingham Documentary Part 1
The History Of Nottingham Is One That Is Rich In UK Criminal History In This Series We Will Take An In Depth Look Into Why Nottingham Was Once Regarded As One Of The Most Dangerous Places To Live In The UK #bendigo
Notorious Criminals Nottingham Documentary
[Music] the best wood cartel now exercised control over a number of pubs in the best wood and ball well area extorting protection money and laundering cash for its books colin and david gunn were now the masters of creating fear to suit their ends both played football for their favorite pup the scots grey and during one sunday league match in march of 2003 at balwell hall van the visiting team received a reminder of the gun brothers intimidation skills the jolly farmers football team walked into their dressing room ahead of the match to find a severed pig’s head in a plastic bag with the message screwed in blood welcome to hell somebody had acquired it from a local butcher the opposition team lost their spot suffering a 3-2 defeat after extra time the jolly farmer’s team secretary jeff best was urged to make an official complaint to the fa but was less than enthusiastic we have got nothing to say was his only comments after the match the scots grey pub had been frequently used by the gumbroomers any trouble which flared up on the premises was rarely dealt with by the police in february 1999 a 35 year old man was stabbed several times outside the pub in a friday night fast when the police went to see him he told them from his hospital bed they had no idea who his attacker was and he did not want them to take it any further he was as he pointed out already in poor shape and knew that talking to the police would be bad for his health run down pubs that they operated which would otherwise have been boarded up and shut down were given at least some lease of life with the best with cartel behind them the cartel was also branching out colin had renewed his association with a family-run gang in the north of nottinghamshire who were equally as brutal in their methods and with jonathan quinn another nottingham criminal from the bilbar area who had branched out significantly from the cigarette and cannabis smuggling into class a importation and firearms to service the north of england john and rob doors were the generals of the doors cartel based in mansfield and sutton in ashfield areas of nottinghamshire by 2001 they had come under investigation by law enforcement agencies who were surprised by the magnitude of their operation they ran a multi-million pound drugs empire from a small house in tudor street sutton and ashfield their modus operando was almost the blueprint of the best wood cartel with whom they enjoyed extensive links not least through john dawes who had worked with colin gunn some years earlier the door’s cartel would recruit young street dealers who usually had addictions of their own to act as runners for them to enforce their rule of law their number one rule was that fear brought great loyalty if you could grab them by the balls their hearts and minds would follow like his pal colin gunn john dawes and screwed life with a legitimate working world and preferred the black economy where no taxes were paid other than to those higher up in the drug business ladder who could tax on you from 1991 until his arrest in 2005 there is no evidence that john dawes did a single day’s legitimate work he lived almost exclusively according to his own accounts as a jobless man claiming benefit his hot-headed brother rob who had a penchant for ordering the shootings of anyone who displeased him was operating from spain from 2002 onwards organizing shipments of cannabis resin and cocaine while the rest of the gang organized wholesale deliveries of amphetamines and heroin mainly from liverpool and runcorn until 2001 they operated almost undetected by any meaningful police probe or enforcement agency police in nottinghamshire launched operation normality in 2001 with the help of the national crime sport and customs investigators by 2003 it would receive additional resources with the sanctioning of operation starburst by law enforcement agencies in london it found that the doors cartel was made up of three generals john and rob dawes and gary hardy another mansfield man whose father had been high up in the command chains of the midlands hell angels chapter these three leaders would take a freeway split on each shipment with rob organizing the smuggling of cocaine and cannabis from spain and john organizing its distribution across the midlands as well as the wholesale importation of amphetamines from holland and heroin from within britain in addition the doors cartel was operating with anthony handley and keith harrison over cannabis shipments into the uk these were handled by john and rob’s father arthur by 2001 this close-knit group was importing so many drugs into nottinghamshire but they had a backlog so they began to bury large amounts underground in coded locations in woodlands in sutton ashfield at sutton lawn mapplewell’s recreation park and in the woodland near pleasely police would eventually find five hundred thousand pounds buried in woodland highs near sutton parkway train station together with a sauna shotgun and animation the burial grounds for the drugs remain hidden to this day on the 1st of june 2001 investigators made their first major inroad into the gang officers lay in way as two doors cartel lieutenants drove to colwick industrial estate on the outskirts of nottingham police were staggered by the scale of the drug running they also discovered inside the industrial unit was around 100 kilos of amphetamines 6 kilos of cannabis resin and 11 kilos of paracetamol cutting agents enough to make 30 kilos of heroin ready for sale on the street jonathan guest ian butler and martin smith were all taken out by the police within a few days all were linked to the production at colwick which was used to cut cocaine heroin and amphetamines as well as to manufacture ecstasy pills and store cannabis john doe decided it was time for a holiday a break on the cost of the crime would enable him to rethink strategies as well as lincoln of his brother rob who spent regular breaks in spain and was laundering their money in two bars and a restaurant supply business near foot and growler he would be able to decide whether new recruits were needed and whether to put the scare into those who were arrested fear was needed to ensure that those who had been lifted by the police did not lead it to his door john and rob doors flew out to magola with some haste in june of 2001. john had rented a villa for nine months hoping that the police interest would eventually disappear he flew back to the uk in september of 2001 to test the water police just kept watching knowing that if they bodied more time it would all be revealed they had taken out their middle tier of the dwarves pyramid and the gangs general were running scared now john dawes was relying on a 23 year old to be one of his lieutenants ryan smith would take on the role on a legal front the arrested mr guest mr butler and mr smith were all beyond help for john dawes he just hoped that the fear that he and rob had installed into them would be enough to prevent them from grasping for more favorable sentences when their case eventually reached nottingham crown corps in january 2002 mr guest admitted conspiracy to supply amphetamines and cannabis as well as possessing 150 000 pounds of heroin he was in prison for 14 years mr butler who admitted possession of heroin with intense support received eight years mr smith whose fingerprints were all over the coalwick industrial estate and who was caught with a carrier bag stained with heroin and with 22 000 pounds hidden in his pantry received four years at the same time as the national crime squad officers were tackling this lower end of the doors cartel they had come across links to another gang smuggling large amounts of cannabis from holland and belgium via the north sea keith red harrison and anthony nottingham tone handily had come to the attention of the dutch police investigating the perplexing murder of a middle-aged schoolteacher on the 24th of november 2002 52 year old jared meesters answered his front door in a quiet area of groningen he was surprised to find five men outside one handed him a phone number on a torn off packet of red rizzler cigarette papers they spoke with english accents and the message was this you are jared meesters your sister janet has done something bad she has stolen something from us you must ring this number in spain and tell the man who answers the phone where your sister is be aware that if you do not do this we will come back and if we have to come back it will not be for a chat jared was shaking in fear he had never been involved in crime in his life he knew his sister had gone off the rails but he had no more idea where she was than the hoods who had visited him jared contacted the dutch police and told them what happened they told him he should take the threat very seriously and consider moving out of his home temporarily overnight jared moved himself his wife and their two children police kept watch on the property for a couple of days but were not there when four days later jared decided he needed to use his computer and returned home to oranstra a sleepy suburban street as he opened his front door to leave at 7 22 pm on the 28th of november 2002 he was approached by a man who pulled out a handgun and shot him eight times dutch investigators were baffled by the murder here is a man who has no criminal background and has been living a very quiet life but as their intentions turned towards his sister jeannette they slowly began to unravel a criminal network which centered on the doors cartel they placed telephone intercepts on the phones of certain dutch criminals who soon threw up the names of nottingham tony and red harrison as well as rob and john dawes through a massive total of 20 000 phone calls analyzed 95 of which were in basic drugs code they had stumbled upon another huge syndicate sending drugs from holland and belgium into the uk what they learned from the books was that jeannette maestas had become embroiled in the criminal network whilst living in spain and had become working as a courier for the doors cartel in autumn of 2002 jeannette and her friend madeline bruce had been given the job of driving a van from spain to holland carrying a large amount of cannabis the couple were pulled over by dutch police on suspicion of drink driving after they were alerted to the erratic behavior of the van inside police discovered more than 350 kilos of cannabis when robbed doors found out about the drugs bust he exploded with rage it was a shipment intended for nottingham tony and was supposed to be around 1.5 tons of cannabis according to the evidence later given in court mr dawes had made the assumption that the rest of the drugs must have been stolen by the two women he set about trying to locate them and sent a message to daniel soaby a 47 year old heroin addict who had been working for the gang since the absconding from prison in 2000. the message was clear put the frighteners on the relatives and family of these two and we will smoke them out if the woman doesn’t do anything we’ll take it to the next stage mr soberbee recruited a man called stephen barnes as his driver and the two men began to trace the relatives of miss meesters and miss bruce first they paid a visit to meester’s old brother jarrah mr swababy and mr barnes returned to groningen in the 28th of november mr barnes later said that he had not told the reason for the visit to the city and claimed he thought he was for a drugs room around 7 15 pm that night mr soberbee who was living under an assumed name with a false passport in breda a city in southern holland took a handgun from a bag and left the car while mr barnes waited for him a few minutes later mr soebe returned and shouted at mr ban go go go let’s get out of here what the [ __ ] is going on mr barnes asked mr sobe replied i’ve been told to kill somebody which i have that’s all you need to know the duo stopped on their way back to the safe house in breda and mr sobe dumped the murder weapon their victim was jared meesters a week later madeleine bruce’s mother ex-husband and boyfriend received a note telling them to contact the same spanish phone number given to jared meesters along with a note were cuttings from a newspaper which detailed mr meester’s murder the implications for the family should they not call the phone number were clear dutch police set up surveillance on the family’s properties in the summer of 2003 relatives received another note warning them to tell them where madeleine was or their lives would be in serious danger police set about forensically testing the material which had been sent in the post incredibly mr soaby had failed to check the material he posted to the brunson family was clean and mr barnes who was known to the dutch police had left his fingerprint on one of the newspaper clippings investigators revealed that mr barnes had since been arrested and was serving a 16-month prison term for a fatal road accident in rotterdam after driving whilst drunk and high on cocaine mr sowerby had been also locked up for drug offences police visited mr barnes first and he confessed to driving mr soaby to the scene of the assassination mr barn said he had initially been sent to amsterdam by the doors cartel because he had stolen 42 grams of heroin from them he was told he would have to pay off his drug death by doing errands for them in holland and he was ordered to become a runaround for mr sober after he ferried mr sowerby to the scene of jared’s murder he fled to spain where rob dawes had ordered him for a debriefing the debriefing session ended with him being severely beaten with an iron bar he suffered several broken limbs mr barnes was told he would be killed if he even ever mentioned the murder a dutch court gave mr barnes who was described as a victim of a criminal organization an eight year sentence for his involvement in mr meester’s murder he had known the doors brothers from school and made a number of visits to amsterdam with rob doors acting as a drug tester before being exiled to holland to repay his heroin debts his lawyer pointed out that once he became a soldier for the gang he could not just leave his life and the lives of his family would be in grave danger if he was arrested or tried to flee the gang would assume that he was a risk and could compromise their operation mr soaby who was described by the dutch judge as a very dangerous man was sentenced to life imprisonment he had already spent much of his life behind bars he had previously been given a life sentence in the uk for the brutal murder of a 66 year old harold birdle who had been beaten to death during a burglary in lincolnshire in december 1977 mr sowerby had fled north sea camp open prison in 2001 before initially going on the run in france and then in holland where he was recruited by the doors cartel both men refused to give any details of the people they were looking for i have to think of my family and my relatives said mr sober if i confess to the murder i have no life anymore then i fear for the lives of my brothers nephews and nieces i will never confess mr barnes said what happened to gerald meesters is not unusual these people know how to deliver pain in your life throughout the investigation dutch police were only able to speak to jeanette misters once while she was in spain before they lost contact we have no idea where these two women are one investigator said the trail ended in spain we don’t know whether they’re alive or dead the spin-off for the national crime squad investigators in the uk was that as a result of the dutch phone taps they now knew that the door’s cartel was a ruthless calculating gang willing to murder on the same scale as the best wood cartel and they were dealing in a much larger quantity and with much more networks than they’d previously been fought the telephone taps had also thrown up a link between large-scale drug shipments flowing from spain hollom and belgium and these cartels ran by the doors family keith harrison and anthony handley and the best good cartel all the roads were leading back to nottinghamshire and southern spain where robbed doors were still holed up in the near town of fruing roller operation normality the probe into the door’s cartel was in full swing after bringing down some of the doors lieutenant and realizing that the qatar was bigger than they thought officers began to take a closer look at the financial transactions of the gang they found more than 8.5 million pounds going through their hands between november 2002 and june 2003 in addition members of the gang were locked on more than 40 flights coming in and out of magala and amsterdam over a two and a half year period in the midst of operation normality nottinghamshire police had to deal with the murder of david draco who was shot dead outside his home in sutton ashfield in october 2002 over a thirty thousand pound debt to the best wood cartel and doors gang john dawes was given the police liaison officer on the basis that he might be at risk because people believed he was linked to the murder mr dawes even had the cheek to offer the detective constable a job in 2002 he telephoned the officer when are you due to hang up the truncheon he said you know we are always on the lookout for lads like yourself you know due for retirement with the kind of stuff you could help us with you would shoot up the promotional ladder in our organization as officers listened in to calls between the group they heard the coded names behind mystery figures and the cartel that they were dealing with the fishermen the hoitawa special bill and carlos as the arrest began to take place in 2003 police also managed to turn some of the cartels drug runners despite the threats of violence which were being leveled at them against them crucially it led to four runners richard carrington mark simpson lee blackmore and christian babsby giving detailed accounts of how the car tower that she operated mark simpson told the police how he had been recruited by john dawes after coming out of prison in january 2002 two months later he and a friend agreed to sell heroin for john doe anything they made above 750 pound per ounce would be profit a meeting took place at which mr dawes and gary hardy were present and outline the areas that the runners could sell in mr dawes told mr simpson he would let him sell heroin in sutton and ashfield and that another man would handle kirby in ashfield mr simpson always took the money to mr dawes usually at his house in tudor street but once at a public house on two occasions he picked up 10 kilos of amphetamine and mr dawes told him where to drop them but some of the speed went missing and mr doors exploded with rage ten minutes later jon dawes came round and batted me around the head with a kosh then they got my hands and smashed him said mr simpson i was absolutely terrified i’d even soiled myself he said that mr dawes had beaten him senseless with a basal bat on another two occasion if you lie to john he hit you he was an absolute psychopath richard carrington told the police how he worked as a courier for rob doors from 2000 until 2002. mr carrington was also involved with john dawes and saw him operating an electric money counter machine at his house putting notes into bundles of one thousand pounds in 2001 mr carrington went to the colwick unit used for making ecstasy tablets and cutting cocaine and amphetamines to pick up some drugs he told police how he would usually pat the drugs under a spare wheel on john dawes shogun 4×4 among the other tasks carried out by mr carrington were shipping of drugs to rugby and manchester and moving the money to holland and spain for rob mr carrington would fly from heathrow east midlands and gatwick airport to amsterdam and magala with wads of cash secreted in his shoes or in the false linings of suitcases lee blatmore was released from prison in june 2000 and began selling heroin for himself before jon dawes told him he would have to work for the cartel or suffer serious consequences mr blackmore told the police how mr dawes used a myriad of burial sites safe houses and runners mark simpson would collect heroin from matlock and bring mr blackmore seven ounces a week which he divided into half grand bags he paid mr simpson after a while mr barnsby replaced mr simpson and supplied mr blackmore both mr barnsby and mr blackmore became very stressed after a load of heroin went missing and at first mr barnsby went on the run he eventually walked into the police station to confess everything closely followed by mr blackmore mr baumsby’s role was to take heroin to mr blackmore and then divide it into ounces they were supplying two or three people every day with an ounce of heroin selling it at 900 pounds per tonne it would be collected from the tesco car part in nottingham once a month mr barmsby would make a profit of 75 pounds per each ounce sold he also collected amphetamines from the same place in nottingham the smallest quantity being 2 or 4 kilos and the largest being 20 kilos like mark simpson he suffered from the gang leaders uncontrollable rages mr barnsby told the police how jon dawes beat him up badly because he did not like the girl that mr bonzi was going out with the door’s brothers 59 year old father arthur eddie dawes poses an antique dealer even allowing another essex based cocaine gang with close links to the doors cartel to use his addresses for bogus businesses between 1997 and his arrest in 2003 arthur claimed thousands of pounds in disability benefit but appeared to be quite capable of helping his son transport drugs from place to place he lived in in gold mells on the lincolnshire coast in a modest house in central avenue with his partner rebecca bridge when police eventually raided the property they found ten thousand pounds in cash two banknote counting machines and a dutch mobile phone beside a bedside cabinet in another room was a hold hall with two maps one of barcelona and one of santander with hotels marked in rings in a sideboard cupboard in the living room was a 2003 diary with the entries in and out for the period from february to the 12th of june and references to names places and flights also in the lounge were a large number of receipts for mobile phone cards 10 phone chargers and a number of other items among the items in ms bridge’s handbag was a book containing a number of phone numbers in a mixture of hers and arthur’s handwriting and the names of middle tier suppliers which had come from anthony handley after doors had also been observed at newport paganal service station on the m1 motorway handing over a tesco’s call back to the driver of a black london cab the cab was pulled over as it left the service station and police found one hundred thousand pounds in the back mr door said that the money was for anthony handley by late spring with a number of arrests having already broken the gang down the door’s cartel began to unravel first as a result of an accident on the 29th of april 2003 one of its couriers crashed its car containing two kilos of heroin analysis of a mobile phone in the car showed a link with a major drug supplier donnie quinn then john dawes himself was arrested having lost many of his troops he had been forced to get hands on in the operation on the 23rd of may 2003 the police saw his fellow boss gary hardy driving a black porsche near sutton ashfield it paused at the junction long enough to give the impression that it was waiting there before pulling around the corner the police then saw jon doors at the passenger door he got into the vehicle police saw body movement in the porsche as if something was being handed over and moved in as mr dawes stood on the pavement with a carrier bag and the porsche drove off arresting mr dawes as he got into his car the carrier bag had contained 14 000 pounds in cash other members of the gang were also rounded up including arthur dawes rebecca bridge and roy smith who had been acting as one of john thor’s lieutenants tony handley and red harrison were the next to trip up 33 year old mr handley who was also known as spunky worked with mr harrison as the kingpin in charge of distributing drugs including ecstasy amphetamines cocaine and cannabis to the west of the uk after they had been imported from holland and belgium when their dutch counterparts informed them that mr handley and mr harrison’s names had turned up on books connected with the murder of jared meesters the national crime squad officers from the midlands launched operation shearson against them in 2003. mr hanley and mr harrison had got to know one another while serving time in hmp north camp c in lincolnshire mr hanley was in for an armed robbery and mr harrison was in for manslaughter mr hanley was an unlikely villain his father was heavily involved with a hypno church and mr hanley had been trained as an accountant himself when he partnered the opening of a sports shop in march 1995 there was little sign of him becoming heavily involved in organized crime he even gave away its first 100 pounds to help gladesdale school in billsborough helped replace sports equipment which was destroyed in a fire but the business went under leaving mr hanley to consider crime as an option to obtain the wealth he saw his first major brush with the law came in february 2000 when he was convicted of an armed robbery along with two others dale roy who he would later recruit for the drugs business and keith stanleyland a 33 year old from huff weight the trio jumped robert bolan in his ford transit and relieved him at gunpoint of 160 000 cigarettes on the a610 near gilbert on the 2nd of november 1999. it was while serving some of his sentence at hmp north sea camp that mr hanley hooked up with mr harrison after absconding from prison mr harrison using the false identity graham harley managed to get a face passport and driving licence and disappear into obscurity in amsterdam he had been involved with ecstasy shipments before and clearly found he could make even greater profits being in holland his name first cropped up in dutch investigations into frankie’s peter beekmans a wholesale supplier of drugs in holland when the name of an englishman called red turned up on these tapes they discovered mr harrison’s real identity and a link was subsequently made to jared meester’s murder mr harrison was shipping drugs to mr hanley after buying them from mr beakman’s who was based in the city of tilburg mr harrison had looked up other friends from hmp north sea camp to assist in the uk distribution and these included a number of people from nottinghamshire mr hanley would arrange for the drugs to be transported over by lorry mr harrison only had to secure a space in a lorry driven by somebody who innocently thought they were carrying a legitimate load millions of pounds worth of drugs would be shipped over to felix though on a ferry from rotterdam in taped up cardboard boxes mr harrison was also shipping drugs for other gangs including the best with cartel and jonathan donny quinn it was easy to then use mr hanley for some of that distribution he would meet the loads and arrange distribution throughout the east midlands west midlands and london the pair soon enjoyed a very lavish lifestyle mr harrison had swanky apartments in amsterdam and breda and both men drove around in mercedes and audi tt’s mr hanley would talk on his mobile phones while sipping a latte in an internet cafe in hooknell on the edge of nottingham listening to mr harrison complain how bored he was in holland and reveal how he spent up to eleven thousand pounds a night on rauch’s night’s hour in the red light district picking up expensive hookers while his wife was back home in the uk much of their talk was monitored by the national crime squad and it was to do with drug shipments the duo used basic code words in their phone conversations cannabis was referred to as a bitter green speeds or amphetamines were then fast things ecstasy tablets were the little ones and cocaine was the expensive stuff however mr harrison who at first became rash when things went wrong with sometimes failed to stick to the agreement on the code words particularly when a shipment was intercepted and were taught explicitly about coke and speed one officer said mr harrison was a billy nomix who only got friends by paying for high class hookers his phone became his best friend and that was his undoing even when he couldn’t get through he left the trail he just couldn’t resist ringing people up who we could then link to the trade through the mapping of the phones when he did get through he was often saying things that played right into our hands mr hanley sent danger and halted calls with mr harrison with his main contact suddenly unattainable mr harrison turned to help from his old friend donald jane an associate from his west midlands days of petty crime and now an underworld figure in birmingham he agreed to arrange the next shipment and approach michael sawwith a boat skipper with two previous convictions for drug importation mr james paid around five thousand pounds towards the higher of mr sauer’s 21 foot speedboat the sundancer which set out from ransgate in kent in august 2003 to make the pickup at a military yacht club in newport on the belgium coast also on board was stephen boa an old acquaintance of mr harrison whose job it was to keep an eye on the skipper and the drugs at the same time mr harrison drove from his home in breda with a ford focus filled with drugs accompanied by his dutch supplier mr beacons mr beacon’s brother-in-law and another unnamed dutchman were in a separate vehicle following he met mr sword and mr bowers with the sundancer and all three men headed back to holland the national crime squad and their dutch and belgium colleagues knew all about it not only did they have the phone’s taps in place but they also had infiltrated the gang belgium police arrested mr harrison and his english accomplices who were later extradited to the uk while the dutchmen were arrested back in holland in england the national crime squad picked up donald james mr beekmans known as the tillerman would later receive a six and a half year sentence and his brother-in-law would receive three years for his involvement after being spooked a feeling which was proved to be correct by the arrest of his pal in belgium mr hanley went on the run holding up in a thirty thousand pound caravan in a remote park in scarborough in yorkshire for six months he watched and waited with the national crime squad having little idea where he was on phone taps they heard that mr hanley was about to get married the detectives began ringing round registry offers around the country nothing turned up locally so one offers a joke that he was probably going to get married on grant for green the scottish border town famous for his quirky marriages as detective inspector john cullen who led the investigation recalled we had tried more obvious locations in sutton ashfield and not new it was a process of elimination then somebody had the inspiration of checking the most obvious location granted green and lo and behold they were right on the morning of the 1st of december 2003 at the mill hotel on the outskirts of grenfer green a party of eight gathered ready for a noon wedding ceremony in the chapel on the grounds a few minutes before the start mr hanley still nursing a bruiser of a hangover and feeling uncomfortably paranoid was getting ready with his best man who joked about any last request his bride was in another room alone looking forward to a future with a man she felt she could keep in her material manner which she had become accustomed to over the last few years but when officers moved in to make the arrest it was all over within a space of minutes mr hanley did not resist the 33 year old later told police i knew the game was up when i looked out the window and i saw a broad-shouldered man go past a delighted d.i could lip said he was surprised to see us he didn’t say very much he was trying to keep his dad at bed the gang was dealt with at birmingham crown corps in april 2005. keith winston eugene harrison originally from coventry was sentenced to eight years in prison whilst mr hanley was sentenced to five and a half years other members of the hook mill trafficking ring were jailed for a combined total of more than 20 years these foot soldiers all employed by mr hanley included mark ford a 32 year old from bulwell who was known as joe 90 or goggles because he wore spectacles mr ford was jailed for three years he had been arrested with two of her defendants in july 2003 with a consignment of drugs on the m1 near northampton mr ford also received an extra six months producing cannabis at a property he owned in nottingham allen ostrich man walker a 62 year old from cochgrave near nottingham received an 18-month center he had been involved in a huge ostrich farm fraud in nottinghamshire which had made more than 20 million pounds in less than 17 months by duping people into buying shares he became involved in the gang as a result of his time at north sea camp prison and agreed to fly over to britain from his home in nice france in 2003 to transport drugs for mr handley he was arrested in new market driving a van containing 85 kilos of cannabis adrian haywood a 36 year old from underwood got six years for supplying mobile phones and transporting for the trafficking he was a motor trader with a workshop in summer coast derbyshire officers found 37 500 ecstasy tablets in a search of the premises dale roy 31 from skegbee who was the security man for the batches of drugs held in various locations received three years while michael the giza sawwood 57 who had lived on the houseboat in kent got six years after being hired to take his speedboat to belgium to collect drugs for mr harrison stephen little basboa 35 from grantham received four years he acted as a runner and a security man holding drugs and going on trips to belgium with mr boa and after becoming seasick had it unwittingly ensured the entire group decided to prolong their stay at newport until he recovered they were there when police swooped the next morning subsequent drug seizures included 1.9 million pounds of cannabis in felixstowe and 1.2 million ecstasy tablets worth 4.8 million pounds in holland by the end of operation shearson police had doubt another big blow to the drug shipments being managed from nottinghamshire large amounts of class a drugs were seized in holland germany again brussels antwerp and birmingham with the help of customer exiles the operation sees 870 kilos of cannabis worth over 1.9 million pounds and 16 kilos of cocaine with a street value of 848 thousand pounds officers were ecstatic with the resource dismantling this well-established network is a major achievement and is down to the hard work and dedication of all the officers involved said d.i john could lit afterwards mr harrison and his cohorts have paid the heavy price of freedom for thinking that they could make easy money through drug trafficking and we hope this sends out a strong message to the others who attempted to do the same another of the gun’s associates donnie quinn had been building up a massive drugs operation of his own mr quinn was no stranger to the police and customs having been lifted several times in large-scale cigarette and cannabis smuggling busts but nothing had ever stuck he had based himself in the bilbray area of nottingham where in cockington road he had a large house which had been pimped up to make him the lord of the council of state such was the cheek of the man they had even had several former police officers from nottinghamshire who had branched out into the gardening services on their retirement willing to tend to his expensive garden for him he had already managed to wriggle out of major busts in october 1999 when 120 kilos of cannabis was found in a lorry in halfway one of the gang’s main men was a 31 year old terror petroplegia called nathan graham who had suffered a massive disability as a result of a driving accident mr graham would later die of a fatal asthma attack six days after being remanded in nottingham prison an inquest into his death recommended healthcare for disabled prisoners being much more improved the cannabis case had been dealt with by the national crime squad officers from derby and nottingham some of whom were later embroiled in a cocaine snorting scandal in 2001. when it came to court in september 2000 legal submissions were heard in chambers by a judge and the trial was abandoned although no reason was ever given publicly mr quinn still faced trial over a spectacular bust by customs and exiles at a warehouse on the banks of the river trent in august of 1999 investigators kept watch on a disused warehouse for several months as cigarettes were shipped in in their millions then a consignment worth more than two million pounds came in they swooped in some in high-powered rubber dinghy boats but he ended the four-week trial at nottingham crown court in march 2001 the jury was unable to reach a verdict a retrial was sought but had never materialized mr quinn perhaps now becoming overconfident launched himself into large-scale class a drug shipments and firearms using connections he had built up over the years he began assembling a formidable gang with some 20 trusted lieutenants spanning nottinghamshire in south yorkshire operation myopi was started in response by the national crime squads rugby branch in october 2003 and focused initially on the drug trafficking activities of mr quinn two of his lieutenants michael mcdonald who was then aged 35 from absolutely and jason wesley 35 from beeston and the network of couriers working in nottinghamshire it soon became apparent that the gang was involved in the supply and distribution of drugs between london nottingham and west yorkshire and had international link with mr quinn regularly visiting magala and spain initial surveillance showed that mr quinn was in regular contact over supplies with the door’s cartel as well as the best wood cartel he also had strong links with the underworld armors across the country and had access to large caches of firearms something he would later attempt to use in his advantage among his gang was a real life robin hood actor mark dickinson who played the famous outlaw at the city’s tales of robin hood attraction during the early 1990s would later appear in a film version of macbeth with jason connery and brian blessed he had fallen on hard times after getting to know mr quinn mr dickinson who also lived in bilbray was offered a job doing runs for him and soon became one of his most trusted cocaine couriers the 39 year old was one of the first to be arrested during a three-year operation officers swooped on mr dixon and watched him drive to the broad oak pub in the village of australia on the 2nd of july 2004 where he met a lorry driver as he left they pulled him over and discovered a kilo of cocaine in his car he would later be jailed for three years and nine months another gang member was a gulf war veteran from the meadows who had first served first battalion grenada’s guards in 1991 dean cumberpatch 34 was arrested after being caught driving a lorry with 150 kilos of cannabis for mr quinn and would later receive a two year sentence by may 2004 mr quinn had also became very good at money laundering he entered into a deal with a group of liverpool businessmen who ripped off the natwest bank to the tune of 15 million pounds in an elaborate fraud mr quinn became their banker the idea for the sophisticated get rich quick scheme came from a genuine letter sent to all the customers in the wake of natwest takeover by the royal bank of scotland it was a warning that wild check funds would still be shown as cleared on the third working day after being paid in they could still end up bouncing if the check was bad this was a signpost to the merseyside villains that it was possible to take money that didn’t actually exist from the account on the wednesday before the may bank holiday one of the merseyside group went into the st helens branch of natwest and placed 20 million pounds in bogus checks into accounts on the surface it was a legitimate deal the 38 000 nokia mobile phones by the friday well before the checks would show up as having been bounced the funds were waving their way through a number of other companies to disguise the origins and make it look like a legitimate financial transaction before arriving at a bank in rigor latvia it was an account mr quinn had opened in the name of alberton finance limited fortunately for nat west latvia had just joined the european union and had been warned to be on the lookout for money laundering activities realizing what was going on the banking authorities in latvia informed the city of london police the account was then frozen preventing the conspirators transferring much of the cast to dubai though altogether 14 million pounds of funds were cleared in latvia before the game was up mr quinn would later receive a three-year prison sentence at southwood crown court for the fraud to be added to his drug warrants meanwhile his drug smuggling operations were being doubt a severe blow as police took out the middle tier of his gang leaving mr quinn exposed although the gang was surveillance savvy regularly changing phones and using phone boxes it did not bank on the national crime squad bugging its higher cars when they went for a valid service every order mr quinn gave was picked up by the surveillance team throughout 2004 the main players in his gang were relentlessly targeted until mr quinn himself was eventually arrested once he was presented with all the bug material he threw in the towel and pleaded guilty altogether 21 members of the gang received a combined prison sentence of 117 years in 2006 mr quinn himself received an 18-year stretch for conspiracy to supply cocaine cannabis and amphetamines and a 12 and a half year sentence to run concurrently for the supply of ecstasy more than two million pounds worth of drugs have been discovered during operation myopia including six kilos of cocaine six kilos of ecstasy 160 kilos of cannabis and 25 kilos of amphetamines mr quinn was not happy about his sentence particularly as he had given the national crimes called officers information about free arm catches that he knew knowledge of he appealed on that basis but the judges pointed out that although the arms and ammunition had been discovered and that they had been important fines on the battle against organized crime no one had actually been arrested it is significant that having been in custody for 18 months the defendants still retain the ability to locate these weapons the appeal court judges said the implication was clear they were either his firearms or he was involved in their movement mr queen was struck with an 18-year prison sentence with donny quinn locked up and the doors cartel taken down colin and david gunn were running out of friends